Latam's A350s
02-17-2020, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
I would say it because Ryan Gumm did make a brief mention of it at the flt ops mgt meeting that I attended. And as has been mentioned, Delta seems to have an aversion to any aircraft over 300 seats. Also the A350-900ULR is not limited to 163 seats, thats simply how many SQ decided to put in theirs, consisting of only business and premium economy seats but it is certainly capable of carrying more pax. Apparently our 3 longest range routes LAX-SYD, ATL-JNB and JFK-BOM (all of which are shorter than LAX/EWR-SIN) require the performance of the 777-200LR. If we are to eventually replace the 777s with an aircraft of similar size, the A359ULR would seem a plausible choice.
02-17-2020, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
I don't think you are getting it. The ULR only makes sense if you need more gas. Our 350s (even Ship 13 with the increased MTOGW) cannot fill the tanks they already have.. To buy the ULR variant is a waste of $$ because instead of 30-40k in unused fuel capacity, now you have 50-60k in unused capacity. It is a gross weight issue, not a fuel issue. Until Airbus engineering beefs up the MTOGW (maybe they can or maybe Ships 13-15 are at the max for their design), the ULR does Delta no good because its MTOGW is the same as ships 13-15. Further, it has its fwd cargo door deactivated to help it get that extra range. If you "de-activate" the door, it is just another -900 with a little more fuel capacity.
02-17-2020, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
To your knowledge, is that possible? It would seem silly that Airbus would refuse to unlock more performance out of it's flagship widebody. Is the same issue present with the -1000???
02-18-2020, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Honestly don't know if the -1000 has a more beefed up body and has a higher relative MTOGW. Seems like too much airplane for Delta's business model but who knows? Maybe Ed and the BoD will approve it's purchase. As James Bond says, bigger pays more. 😊
02-19-2020, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosa Nostra
Are those LATAM birds at JFK ours?
Look like A350s.
Look like A350s.
But answer your question, no those won't be Delta birds. LATAM has 12 350-900s, and orders for 14 350-1000s. Of their 12 -900s, 4 are leased to Qatar, and we'll take those 4. They're keeping the other 8 that are currently in their fleet (what you saw). We are also taking over the delivery commitments for the 14 -1000s, although its assumed we will convert the order to -900s.
02-19-2020, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by saturn
They are 20% ours.
But answer your question, no those won't be Delta birds. LATAM has 12 350-900s, and orders for 14 350-1000s. Of their 12 -900s, 4 are leased to Qatar, and we'll take those 4. They're keeping the other 8 that are currently in their fleet (what you saw). We are also taking over the delivery commitments for the 14 -1000s, although its assumed we will convert the order to -900s.
But answer your question, no those won't be Delta birds. LATAM has 12 350-900s, and orders for 14 350-1000s. Of their 12 -900s, 4 are leased to Qatar, and we'll take those 4. They're keeping the other 8 that are currently in their fleet (what you saw). We are also taking over the delivery commitments for the 14 -1000s, although its assumed we will convert the order to -900s.
