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m3113n1a1 02-14-2020 07:54 PM

People just don't want to admit to themselves that they (and their way of life) are the problem. It's human nature.

Burning coal, trashing the environment, eating meat and dairy, funding wars, buying iPhones, wearing designer clothes made in sweatshops, etc is a lot easier if you lie to yourself and tell yourself that you aren't hurting anyone.

FL370esq 02-14-2020 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 2977188)
1,000 eh? Just making up your own numbers to support your argument.

The world's population is already plateauing. Population control is an old fear that's no longer relevant.

Okay...one more? Is that better?

You probably should give up being a pilot if you are so concerned about carbon footprints because Greta has told me air travel is awful.

FL370esq 02-14-2020 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2977200)
People just don't want to admit to themselves that they (and their way of life) are the problem. It's human nature.

Burning coal, trashing the environment, eating meat and dairy, funding wars, buying iPhones, wearing designer clothes made in sweatshops, etc is a lot easier if you lie to yourself and tell yourself that you aren't hurting anyone.

And flying airplanes too, right?

Viking busdvr 02-14-2020 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2977200)
People just don't want to admit to themselves that they (and their way of life) are the problem. It's human nature.

Burning coal, trashing the environment, eating meat and dairy, funding wars, buying iPhones, wearing designer clothes made in sweatshops, etc is a lot easier if you lie to yourself and tell yourself that you aren't hurting anyone.

Yeah—. People suck!!!

Well not me... I have a “coexist” bumper sticker on one side of my Prius, and a “Resist” sticker on the other side. People who don’t agree with me are obviously NAZIs.....

LumberJack 02-14-2020 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by Viking busdvr (Post 2977208)
Yeah—. People suck!!!

Well not me... I have a “coexist” bumper sticker on one side of my Prius, and a “Resist” sticker on the other side. People who don’t agree with me are obviously NAZIs.....

This isn't about opinions. Humans are causing it and humans can slow it down.

LumberJack 02-14-2020 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2977207)
And flying airplanes too, right?

Yes .

LumberJack 02-14-2020 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2977206)
Okay...one more? Is that better?

You probably should give up being a pilot if you are so concerned about carbon footprints because Greta has told me air travel is awful.

Hard to respond to that. Got anything that makes sense?

SonicFlyer 02-14-2020 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2977200)
People just don't want to admit to themselves that they (and their way of life) are the problem. It's human nature.

Except that it isn't proven that it is a problem. The effect of man's activity on the atmosphere is still unknown, unquantifiable, and even if it is significant it is also not well understood.

SonicFlyer 02-14-2020 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 2977150)
So for you climate change deniers, serious question: what's the downside of cleaning up our act and doing what we can to reduce our impact and destruction of our own habitat? At a minimum well see what, cleaner air? Cleaner water? Is the best argument you got is that it will cost us a few pennies come profit sharing time? Yeah, I'm ok with that. :rolleyes:

That's not the problem. I don't know anyone who will tell you that polluting less is a bad thing. But that's not the agenda.

The agenda is about control and forcing you to change your lifestyle and society at large based on what some people think might could potentially be happening but don't know for sure. Demanding that entire economy shift it's fundamentals based on some ivory tower theories in their intellectual infancy is absurd.

Now if it were proven beyond any doubt that man was not only contributing to climate change significantly and that the climate change was detrimental somehow, then yeah I might could see some serious adult discussion about it. But right now neither points have been proven.

In short, radical environmentalism is being used as a vehicle for progressive/socialism. And what is sad is that supposed critically thinking adults buy into it.

SonicFlyer 02-14-2020 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Viking busdvr (Post 2977131)
Here’s a hint.... the earth’s climate has been changing long before man came along, and will continue to change long after we’re gone......

Please sir, this is the Internet. Let's not inject facts or logic or rationale into the discussion. It will only confuse things.


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