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Old 04-21-2020 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
If every 777 and 765 A & Bs get displaced to the 350, 330 and so on. Management knows it. It's going to cost them money to train us. And a lot of trained pilots will sit at home for months waiting to get a TOE on the int'l side. There's smoke coming out of their ears trying to figure it out.
Originally Posted by ERflyer
Completely agree. I sure hope management figures it out. I can stay for a long time getting paid 72-80 hours to workout and work on my house, or I can go to training one more time. I don’t care. I am beginning to think they are naively hoping to divide us. They sure aren’t trying to save money with pilots.
I like the way this is shaping up. How do I bid for highest likelihood of NQAT in my displacement preferences?
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Old 04-21-2020 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by casual observer
Maybe a moderated mitigation where they partially open the economy and try to limit hospitalizations below capacity until there is herd immunity. Maybe half a million people die in the next couple of years until covid is no longer much of a thing.
Just to be clear, if moderate mitigation includes social distancing, travel restrictions, and caps on flight load factors, every airline will go bankrupt before the virus is no longer much of a thing.
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Old 04-21-2020 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryder
What 1000 are already on the streets?
Trans States. Compass.
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Old 04-21-2020 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by casual observer
Maybe a moderated mitigation where they partially open the economy and try to limit hospitalizations below capacity until there is herd immunity. Maybe half a million people die in the next couple of years until covid is no longer much of a thing.
And that revives the airline industry how???

Half the pilots on this board believe there’s been an overreaching government response to CV (that includes me). The other half think the first half is a bunch of dumb@$$es and that we need to do more quarantining.

At first it was “flatten the curve.” Now it’s “no restriction is too great if it saves one life.”

There will never be a vaccine (CV morphs too quickly to have an effective vaccine). Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, will die if we go down the herd immunity path-the media will paralyze the American people with fear.

IMO, this reaction in this political climate is the path to universal basic income. “The government said I had to stay home and couldn’t work, therefore the government is responsible for paying my salary.” If the Dems do well in Nov, look for AOC and the gang to begin implementing the Green New Deal. They could never persuade us to adopt the GND, but in the name of “personal safety” (ala CV-19), they can impose the GND on us. No room for airline careers (good salaries and benefits) in the GND.

Im in a pessimistic mood tonight. I’ll feel better after some sleep. But this is my fear of where this could go.

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Old 04-21-2020 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AUP09
Just to be clear, if moderate mitigation includes social distancing, travel restrictions, and caps on flight capacity, every airline will go bankrupt before the virus is no longer much of a thing.
I think it's going to be tough. I think the stock market is currently too optimistic. Some airlines will survive, leaner. Couple years of crap followed by a slow recovery.
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Old 04-21-2020 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AUP09
Just to be clear, if moderate mitigation includes social distancing, travel restrictions, and caps on flight load factors, every airline will go bankrupt before the virus is no longer much of a thing.
^^^^Bingo.
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Old 04-21-2020 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AUP09
Just to be clear, if moderate mitigation includes social distancing, travel restrictions, and caps on flight load factors, every airline will go bankrupt before the virus is no longer much of a thing.
every airline is going away one way or the other. None will survive the next four years. The landscape will be a barren mess of wreckage in a few years with some bits of various airlines struggling to make a comeback. Covid 19 killed the industry.
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Old 04-21-2020 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by domino
every airline is going away one way or the other. None will survive the next four years. The landscape will be a barren mess of wreckage in a few years with some bits of various airlines struggling to make a comeback. Covid 19 killed the industry.
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Old 04-21-2020 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by domino
every airline is going away one way or the other. None will survive the next four years. The landscape will be a barren mess of wreckage in a few years with some bits of various airlines struggling to make a comeback. Covid 19 killed the industry.
We hear everything from it’s all gonna reviver quick to it’s totally over. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
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Old 04-21-2020 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by domino
every airline is going away one way or the other. None will survive the next four years. The landscape will be a barren mess of wreckage in a few years with some bits of various airlines struggling to make a comeback. Covid 19 killed the industry.
Really? All them fancy high speed trains poppin' up out the woodwork inside four years? Just giving ya hard time, Chin up it won't be fun, but people have spread out family, friends, college, business....and unless youre Amish, we are all in a hurry, the world over. Don't get too down, things will improve.
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