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Old 03-20-2020, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by WakeWash View Post
I’m beginning to wonder if everyone is underestimating AA. Secured $1B today, looking at the billions in government aide which they say should hold them at 6 months in this kind of environment, and not even really talking about the worry of furloughs. Everyone keeps talking about debt but this isn’t about debt since it’s short term. This is about liquidity and they have more. They are only in trouble if the industry doesn’t bounce back by the fall.
I think you may be right...I can’t tell if sitting on and not investing ~7 billion in cash and borrowing to re-fleet when times were good and debt was cheap (no large maturities to pay until 2022) was a genius play or just dumb luck. Probably the latter.

What I can tell wrt to minimal furlough talk is currently AA is retiring 800-900 a year for the next 8 years making it possible to “right size” the pilot group on the backside of this crisis with minimal pain to the bottom of the list. That’s mandatory 70-80 off the list every month for almost the next decade. Not saying they won’t happen but it should be a lot less painful than in the past.
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Old 03-20-2020, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ERflyer View Post
I think we need at least another $11M to go a year. Might be better to get too much sooner rather than wait till it dries up.
We also have an untapped line of credit for $3.1 billion. I would think finance has been in talks with banks about availability to withdraw that cash and will draw it as soon as they get any inkling that banks might restrict the line.
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Old 03-20-2020, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Dash8Pilot View Post
line of credit for $3.1 billion...
At $40m/ day*, that might last 3 months.
*our current burn rate
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Old 03-20-2020, 10:36 AM
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Don't worry guys, there will be less thunderstorms this summer in ATL, so that should offset some of the losses...
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Old 03-20-2020, 10:37 AM
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730 cancellations in the next 24-hours. That'll make the few remaining pax happy. Time to shut it down.
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Old 03-20-2020, 11:39 AM
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Gotta say the optimism of “still having a small profit sharing check” next year sort of posts only 10 days ago aren’t aging too well. At this point I’ll be happy to have a Delta to come back to in a few years.

Oh well. Time to KBO (Keep Buggering On)
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Old 03-20-2020, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 View Post
Don't worry guys, there will be less thunderstorms this summer in ATL, so that should offset some of the losses...
Most excellent thread crossover
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Trip7 has been very, very quiet on both here and CC.


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 View Post
Don't worry guys, there will be less thunderstorms this summer in ATL, so that should offset some of the losses...
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Old 03-20-2020, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NERD View Post
Trip7 has been very, very quiet on both here and CC.
Give the guy a break. We all wish he was right.
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Old 03-20-2020, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SideSticker View Post
At $40m/ day*, that might last 3 months.
*our current burn rate
I think Ed’s memo referenced $50 million/day. Read an Alpha investment Article last night talking about Big 4 liquidity. Based on current projections Cash burn longevity was approximately Southwest 16 months, Delta 8.5 months, American 5 months and United 3.5 months. I believe this was based on current cash balance. Article was optimistic on a Delta and Southwest survival.
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