70% capacity cut, Parking 600 planes
#421
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I was off by 100 ish. Ok so 910 - 430 = 480 planes * 16pilots/plane = 7680. So 7700 + like 1000 (margin of error) or so = 8700 ish pilots on property. Still nowhere near the 14,600 we have. How are we not to furlough?
Unless of course we re-increase the size of our fleet inside of one year from now. No?
Unless of course we re-increase the size of our fleet inside of one year from now. No?
#423
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I assumed a 1-2 year recovery time to our current fleet size, from being down 430 planes (V recovery). I’ve seen that 1-2 year figure in a few places, but a total assumption from my part I admit. I was trying to make relatively educated guesses and fall within a ballpark figure(1 standard deviation from the mean or so).
#424
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I assumed a 1-2 year recovery time to our current fleet size, from being down 430 planes (V recovery). I’ve seen that 1-2 year figure in a few places, but a total assumption from my part I admit. I was trying to make relatively educated guesses and fall within a ballpark figure(1 standard deviation from the mean or so).
#425
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We may fly a more complete schedule before we have a complete recovery in demand. Why? Broadening city pair connection options and increasing departure and arrival time flexibility has the potential to bring back more total pax, especially the business pax that value completion their time and want to cherry pick the most complete departure times, etc. It is far too early to know how things will play out, nor what the company will attempt to achieve as demand recovers. Will they try to fly a reduced network schedule at higher load factors and reduced fleet size and crew manning, or a lower load factor with more of the fleet and crew force operating? I doubt they even know what they would prefer, nor do I think they want to commit to one path over another just yet. Our sugar daddy has been business travelers paying for premium seats, so maintaining former market share in that segment, or capturing even more in a recovery (via a more complete service offering of city pairs, etc.) might motivate a plan to idle, but not cut the fleet and crew force. Anyone that knows exactly what scenario will play out with economy or what path company leadership wants to take should obviously run for the position of Allmighty.
#426
I was off by 100 ish. Ok so 910 - 430 = 480 planes * 16pilots/plane = 7680. So 7700 + like 1000 (margin of error) or so = 8700 ish pilots on property. Still nowhere near the 14,600 we have. How are we not to furlough?
Unless of course we re-increase the size of our fleet inside of one year from now. No?
Unless of course we re-increase the size of our fleet inside of one year from now. No?
With the furlough prohibition of the bailout, we nearly certainly won’t furlough.
#427
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#428
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Let’s wait another 10 days. We’ve exhausted ourselves in the last 2 weeks with heated political debates and future predictions ranging from “dreadful” to “harmless”. Let’s see how the predictions catch up to reality in the next week or so before making a knee jerk reaction.
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