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popcopy 03-23-2020 02:58 PM

Mandatory two week quarantine for NY to FL
 
Florida’s Republican Governor Ron DeSantis is issuing an executive order to require passengers flying from NY/NJ to Florida to endure a TWO WEEK quarantine!! We may as well cancel all future NY-FL service. All flights will be empty, everyone will be driving now and all truckstop motels in SC will be packed.

No idea how this will impact commuters.

RightSide 03-23-2020 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by popcopy (Post 3009006)
Florida’s Republican Governor Ron DeSantis is issuing an executive order to require passengers flying from NY/NJ to Florida to endure a TWO WEEK quarantine!! We may as well cancel all future NY-FL service. All flights will be empty, everyone will be driving now and all truckstop motels in SC will be packed.

No idea how this will impact commuters.

I think like everything else we are exempt due to being “essential workers”.

PilotJ3 03-23-2020 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by RightSide (Post 3009011)
I think like everything else we are exempt due to being “essential workers”.

but if the flights cancel, there’s no way to get out.

pay protected? I hope so

RightSide 03-23-2020 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 3009026)
but if the flights cancel, there’s no way to get out.

pay protected? I hope so

Good point, I hope so. It’s definitely getting crazy out there!

emersonbiguns 03-23-2020 03:35 PM

A little late....

Friday and Saturday, MCO and RSW were hopping and business as usual. Florida is going to kill A LOT of old people.

hockeypilot44 03-23-2020 03:49 PM

The Florida airports are packed. TSA checkpoints working at half capacity and shoulder to shoulder lines out the door. It's a joke.

deltabound 03-23-2020 03:55 PM

If it’s”self quarantine “ it’s worthless. No one, especially old farts, pays any attention to these things.

”Social distancing” too vague. How about “stay home, and grocery shop once a week, max”?

Now...fining people for not wearing masks in public.....Did wonders in SAN 1917. .... then failed in November when the public refused to do it anymore.

ImmaAHole 03-23-2020 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 3009047)
A little late....

Friday and Saturday, MCO and RSW were hopping and business as usual. Florida is going to kill A LOT of old people.

Is that a bad thing? Solving the snow bird problem.

JulesWinfield 03-23-2020 04:18 PM

Odd that we are somehow exempt from this. It's like we can't transmit the disease or something.

vyperdriver 03-23-2020 04:40 PM

Well as far as I can tell, all quarantines are self quarantines. I haven't seen anyone standing g with rifles enforcing people stay in their homes...makes sense though since 90% of my 320 trips are NYC to Florida! I seriously recommend just shutting NYC completely down for 2 weeks and then reassessing. The threat to the crews is real. The cleanliness of the aircraft is dubious at best, at least on the flight deck. Maybe I'm missing something, and I'm definitely not a virologist...although I play one on TV, but wouldnt common sense just dictate to distance yourself from arguably the newest hot spot on the entire planet? Uber or taxi back and forth to crash pad, or hotel, just exposes us each infinitely to potential exposure. It just seems that the most likely conduit for national contamination is through airline travel, unless rail service has picked up or people are all the sudden flocking to greyhound.

AimHigh1 03-24-2020 05:53 AM

Only thing I see happening is flights canceling.. JFK/LGA/TPA :(

FL370esq 03-24-2020 06:39 AM

Just re-route them through DTW. Problem solved. 😁

Peabody17 03-24-2020 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 3009500)
Just re-route them through DTW. Problem solved. 😁

That’ll kill the virus for sure!

newKnow 03-24-2020 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 3009500)
Just re-route them through DTW. Problem solved. 😁



The order does not apply to those employed by "airlines, or those performing military, emergency, or health response."

We must be immune.

deltabound 03-24-2020 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 3009500)
Just re-route them through DTW. Problem solved. 😁

That’s more a solution than you might guess.

My understanding is that the travel ban is for airline travel only.

If you’re driving from NYC to FL, you’re totally legal.

This is looking more and more like mass panic and hysteria. “Pneumonia is a old man’s friend”, as is “Open the window and let pneumonia in” for a reason. No one lives forever.

80ktsClamp 03-24-2020 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 3009047)
A little late....

Friday and Saturday, MCO and RSW were hopping and business as usual. Florida is going to kill A LOT of old people.


That's one way to thin out the boomers. :eek:

vyperdriver 03-25-2020 12:11 PM

Ok serious question. Regardless of the fact we are "essential," for those of us that live in Florida how can we comply with the order to quarantine for 14 days "EVERY" time we come back from NYC? Its one thing to be essential to go to work, but I will be in perpetual quarantine from my family and in my case my home doesn't have a valid place to quarantine, so do I go live in a hotel for however many months? I don't see how we can comply with the law and fly into and out of NYC/

Lifeisgood 03-25-2020 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 3011480)
Ok serious question. Regardless of the fact we are "essential," for those of us that live in Florida how can we comply with the order to quarantine for 14 days "EVERY" time we come back from NYC? Its one thing to be essential to go to work, but I will be in perpetual quarantine from my family and in my case my home doesn't have a valid place to quarantine, so do I go live in a hotel for however many months? I don't see how we can comply with the law and fly into and out of NYC/

The crews are exempt.
Otherwise National Guard has all incoming passengers fill out a form with their quarantine information.

vyperdriver 03-25-2020 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Lifeisgood (Post 3011489)
The crews are exempt.
Otherwise National Guard has all incoming passengers fill out a form with their quarantine information.

I'm just trying to figure out what super power we have at not getting the virus. i.e. you fly a one day, uber to the hotel/crashpad, fly next day 1 day uber/crashpad, fly third one day uber/crashpad and somewhere in there have to eat then return home. When you commute home, you aren't doing a thing for the airline, so how would you be exempt of the 14 day when you get back from a trip. Every trip home would require a quarantine from your family and neighbors. So to me the exemption only means you can't be arrested/detained while performing the functions of your job. Essentially we are blowing off any recommended self quarantine recommendations and/or requirements from the President on down to fly 25 people in the back of an aircraft.

deltabound 03-25-2020 04:28 PM

Probably too political, but here goes:

Where do states get off restarting the free movement of US citizens between states? Where do they derive that authority? Do they have statutory emergency powers that allows them to do this? I’m genuinely curious.

For example:

Can Rhode Island prohibit the entry of New Mexicans during flu season now? Or force a quarantine for, I don’t know, a year?

This is just nuts.

Jaww 03-25-2020 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 3011820)
Probably too political, but here goes:

Where do states get off restarting the free movement of US citizens between states? Where do they derive that authority? Do they have statutory emergency powers that allows them to do this? I’m genuinely curious.

For example:

Can Rhode Island prohibit the entry of New Mexicans during flu season now? Or force a quarantine for, I don’t know, a year?

This is just nuts.

I don’t think so. Gibbons v Ogden was about states regulating commerce pretty sure this can be applied.

cwienck 03-25-2020 05:03 PM

Yesterday I flew JFK to JAX and passengers were forced to sign a questionnaire before leaving the plane, and when we de-planed they sent everyone to a separate part of the airport to turn it in and be questioned. They even had cops directing people on where to go.

I got off the same aircraft, headed to the same location, but in my uniform... And a cop said "You can use the normal exit!"

We live in a bizarro world.

vyperdriver 03-25-2020 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by cwienck (Post 3011863)
Yesterday I flew JFK to JAX and passengers were forced to sign a questionnaire before leaving the plane, and when we de-planed they sent everyone to a separate part of the airport to turn it in and be questioned. They even had cops directing people on where to go.

I got off the same aircraft, headed to the same location, but in my uniform... And a cop said "You can use the normal exit!"

We live in a bizarro world.

thanks for the update. I'll be in your shoes un about a week. Please let us know how you avoided getting sick while everyone else was at significant risk!? Super powers?

Iceberg 03-25-2020 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 3011922)
thanks for the update. I'll be in your shoes un about a week. Please let us know how you avoided getting sick while everyone else was at significant risk!? Super powers?

I attached a clear garbage bag to my hat. Drops right over your face and by inhaling sharply you get a good seal. Barely noticeable after the first minute.

vyperdriver 03-25-2020 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3011939)
I attached a clear garbage bag to my hat. Drops right over your face and by inhaling sharply you get a good seal. Barely noticeable after the first minute.

love it! That with my company issued handsanitizer, oh wait sorry, with my personal brought from home sanitizer should do the trick!

notEnuf 03-26-2020 06:24 AM

NYC is a choice. Commuting is a choice. Out of seniority upgrade is a choice. Being healthy enough to go to work is a choice.

Phins2right 03-26-2020 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 3012100)
love it! That with my company issued handsanitizer, oh wait sorry, with my personal brought from home sanitizer should do the trick!

Can't wait to see the looks as I walk down Term 4 with my body condom on.....those of you who've had the pleasure to rage around at MOPP4 will understand what I'm talking about....

notEnuf 03-26-2020 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Phins2right (Post 3012506)
Can't wait to see the looks as I walk down Term 4 with my body condom on.....those of you who've had the pleasure to rage around at MOPP4 will understand what I'm talking about....

But when the TSA makes you take it off...

vyperdriver 03-26-2020 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Phins2right (Post 3012506)
Can't wait to see the looks as I walk down Term 4 with my body condom on.....those of you who've had the pleasure to rage around at MOPP4 will understand what I'm talking about....

alarm black mopp4 I say again alarm black mopp 4

SparkySmith 03-26-2020 10:17 AM

Mandatory two week quarantine for NY to FL
 

Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 3012565)
alarm black mopp4 I say again alarm black mopp 4


Is it nap time? In my former life any announcement with “mop” in it meant go to your stateroom and take a 2-hour nap.


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CX500T 03-26-2020 10:19 AM

Just like GQ

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Banzai 03-26-2020 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 3011922)
thanks for the update. I'll be in your shoes un about a week. Please let us know how you avoided getting sick while everyone else was at significant risk!? Super powers?

How many pilots are sick? How many FAs? I'd like to know, wouldn't you?

deltabound 03-26-2020 11:15 AM

Anyone else looking at 32+ hour layovers in plague NYC, and sayin “no thanks”?

Kinda missing the days when I could pick my nose and only die socially. Instead of, uh, die.

DALMD88FO 03-26-2020 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Phins2right (Post 3012506)
Can't wait to see the looks as I walk down Term 4 with my body condom on.....those of you who've had the pleasure to rage around at MOPP4 will understand what I'm talking about....

Did MOPP4 under nods in the desert once (army chopper bubba) Scared myself so badly that I figured I’d take my chances getting hit by anthrax.

gloopy 03-26-2020 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3012526)
But when the TSA makes you take it off...

Sure you can don. Anyone can don son. But can you doff, bro?

CX500T 03-26-2020 01:21 PM

Latest memo has them taking temps for people coming into GO, OCC, Reservations centers.

Nothing for people work actually work at the airport.

How strange.

notEnuf 03-26-2020 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3012861)
Sure you can don. Anyone can don son. But can you doff, bro?

I authenticate ABED I repeat all clear. Go doff yourself.

Hank Kingsley 03-26-2020 03:18 PM

USA #1 in virus cases, just passed "Gina".

popcopy 03-26-2020 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 3013021)
USA #1 in virus cases, just passed "Gina".

“It’s not worse than the flu, it’s the dems trying to take down trump”

- My last captain

vyperdriver 03-26-2020 03:54 PM

Somewhere else I read 488 pilots with COVID-19, anybody else hear that?


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