No rumors yet from the big meeting?
03-27-2020, 10:30 AM
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ALPA: “We really want to help with cash preservation, and we want to do our part to assist in payroll losses. So with factoring in the CARE ACT, what are the losses due to payroll for the next six months?”
Management: “Well, technically $0”.
ALPA: “We out”.
Management: “Well, technically $0”.
ALPA: “We out”.
03-27-2020, 11:23 AM
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They already showed us again (remember post 9/11 also???) they aren’t good on their word. The ink wasn’t even dry from LOA 20-01 when they changed their mind... because things change. Now another give? Sorry. The Gubment just gave Delta a huuuuge block of free cheese and very cheap loans after that... right now I’d say for any giveback of ALV that it’s tied to a quid pro quo. Lower ALV? We want an extra week of vacation back. Or real crew meals (old days) and commuter parking... any givebacks have to be tied to automatic snap backs based off metrics. As I see it, a reduced ALV is a pay cut. Period.
03-27-2020, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Tailhookah
They already showed us again (remember post 9/11 also???) they aren’t good on their word. The ink wasn’t even dry from LOA 20-01 when they changed their mind... because things change. Now another give? Sorry. The Gubment just gave Delta a huuuuge block of free cheese and very cheap loans after that... right now I’d say for any giveback of ALV that it’s tied to a quid pro quo. Lower ALV? We want an extra week of vacation back. Or real crew meals (old days) and commuter parking... any givebacks have to be tied to automatic snap backs based off metrics. As I see it, a reduced ALV is a pay cut. Period.
03-27-2020, 11:50 AM
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I’ve been against any cut in the ALV, but I suppose everyone has a price. In fact there are quite a few significant quids we could get that cost Delta very little in the short term.
1. Restoration of full voluntary verification for sick leave.
2. UAL deadhead language including the first class seats they get to and from training, plus the ability to have a glass of wine again on ocean crossings.
3. Commuter clause reduced to one flight with a confirmed jumpseat reservation.
4. Long call increase to 14 hours.
5. Hotels for new hires (no cost item since there aren’t any new hires and if there ever are again we’re officially out of the woods).
6. ALV reductions are banked with interest with a hard timeline on repayment.
Any agreement would have to be heavily weighted in our favor and MUST go to memory rat.
1. Restoration of full voluntary verification for sick leave.
2. UAL deadhead language including the first class seats they get to and from training, plus the ability to have a glass of wine again on ocean crossings.
3. Commuter clause reduced to one flight with a confirmed jumpseat reservation.
4. Long call increase to 14 hours.
5. Hotels for new hires (no cost item since there aren’t any new hires and if there ever are again we’re officially out of the woods).
6. ALV reductions are banked with interest with a hard timeline on repayment.
Any agreement would have to be heavily weighted in our favor and MUST go to memory rat.
03-27-2020, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
I’ve been against any cut in the ALV, but I suppose everyone has a price. In fact there are quite a few significant quids we could get that cost Delta very little in the short term.
1. Restoration of full voluntary verification for sick leave.
2. UAL deadhead language including the first class seats they get to and from training, plus the ability to have a glass of wine again on ocean crossings.
3. Commuter clause reduced to one flight with a confirmed jumpseat reservation.
4. Long call increase to 14 hours.
5. Hotels for new hires (no cost item since there aren’t any new hires and if there ever are again we’re officially out of the woods).
6. ALV reductions are banked with interest with a hard timeline on repayment.
Any agreement would have to be heavily weighted in our favor and MUST go to memory rat.
1. Restoration of full voluntary verification for sick leave.
2. UAL deadhead language including the first class seats they get to and from training, plus the ability to have a glass of wine again on ocean crossings.
3. Commuter clause reduced to one flight with a confirmed jumpseat reservation.
4. Long call increase to 14 hours.
5. Hotels for new hires (no cost item since there aren’t any new hires and if there ever are again we’re officially out of the woods).
6. ALV reductions are banked with interest with a hard timeline on repayment.
Any agreement would have to be heavily weighted in our favor and MUST go to memory rat.
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