Search

Notices

March 31st Townhall

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-31-2020 | 06:47 PM
  #51  
GucciBoy's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,148
Likes: 0
From: Fetal
Default

Originally Posted by OOfff
you’re missing the part where loss of employee goodwill might make that savings a negative number. If 2000 VLOAs at under $6k a month don’t get taken for a single month (vice multiple months for the $10m savings number) because “screw you the pilots get paid leave,” the $10m savings is suddenly a cost item.

Do you think a person that is willing to forego their income to “help the company” is the same person that will decline to do so out of spite because of the “greedy pilots”? I don’t.
Reply
Old 03-31-2020 | 06:59 PM
  #52  
Quality of Lifer
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 691
Likes: 5
From: M88A
Default

Don't really understand that after a few cocktails but I can say that whatever you do will have absolutely no bearing on the company's decision
Reply
Old 03-31-2020 | 07:48 PM
  #53  
Gunfighter's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
1M Airline Miles
On Reserve
Gets Weekends Off
50 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,614
Likes: 632
Default

Originally Posted by OOfff
you’re missing the part where loss of employee goodwill might make that savings a negative number. If 2000 VLOAs at under $6k a month don’t get taken for a single month (vice multiple months for the $10m savings number) because “screw you the pilots get paid leave,” the $10m savings is suddenly a cost item.
you’re missing the part where most of the VLOAs will receive unemployment compensation that covers the bulk of lost earnings or that were part time employees who are here for the benefits more than the paycheck. Delta even fills out the unemployment paperwork for employees taking leave. If pilots could get unemployment benefits that covered most of their pay, many would be out on leave too. Management is intentionally sending a misleading message so the pilot group will help save buybacks.

We have learned our lesson. Also, a big thanks to management for uniting the pilot group more effectively than any MEC could ever dream of.
Reply
Old 03-31-2020 | 07:50 PM
  #54  
Quality of Lifer
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 691
Likes: 5
From: M88A
Default

Originally Posted by Gunfighter
you’re missing the part where most of the VLOAs will receive unemployment compensation that covers the bulk of lost earnings or that were part time employees who are here for the benefits more than the paycheck. Delta even fills out the unemployment paperwork for employees taking leave. If pilots could get unemployment benefits that covered most of their pay, many would be out on leave too. Management is intentionally sending a misleading message so the pilot group will help save buybacks.

We have learned our lesson. Also, a big thanks to management for uniting the pilot group more effectively than any MEC could ever dream of.
this, I understand
Reply
Old 04-01-2020 | 04:09 AM
  #55  
JulesWinfield's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,838
Likes: 278
Default

Originally Posted by Gunfighter
you’re missing the part where most of the VLOAs will receive unemployment compensation that covers the bulk of lost earnings or that were part time employees who are here for the benefits more than the paycheck. Delta even fills out the unemployment paperwork for employees taking leave. If pilots could get unemployment benefits that covered most of their pay, many would be out on leave too. Management is intentionally sending a misleading message so the pilot group will help save buybacks.

We have learned our lesson. Also, a big thanks to management for uniting the pilot group more effectively than any MEC could ever dream of.

Almost every state will deny unemployment if you voluntarily separate from your job.
Reply
Old 04-01-2020 | 04:21 AM
  #56  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 382
Likes: 2
From: 737B
Default

That will be the interesting thing.... what happens when the States push back? It’s not like they have all this extra money laying around to let people defraud the system.
Reply
Old 04-01-2020 | 06:07 AM
  #57  
Imapilot2's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,003
Likes: 0
From: Captain Jack
Talking

Originally Posted by Turbo1
I operate the airplane is though it were mine and the money was coming out of my pocket. And I have had an airplane for over 20 years.
Now we know who is up front while we are all sweating to death in the back and ****ing off our high profit first class customer!
Reply
Old 04-01-2020 | 06:09 AM
  #58  
Imapilot2's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,003
Likes: 0
From: Captain Jack
Default

Originally Posted by Turbo1
Don't really understand that after a few cocktails but I can say that whatever you do will have absolutely no bearing on the company's decision

....However this is exactly correct!!!!!
Reply
Old 04-01-2020 | 07:35 AM
  #59  
Thread Starter
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 383
Likes: 3
From: Resting
Default

Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Almost every state will deny unemployment if you voluntarily separate from your job.

That was completely true until the CARE Act passed last Friday. Voluntary leaves are now covered till July 31st.
Reply
Old 04-01-2020 | 09:10 AM
  #60  
notEnuf's Avatar
Racketeer
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 13,337
Likes: 826
From: N60.4858 W149.9327
Default

“No, SILs are not back on the table.” Ok then, with payroll covered by the gubment, next. Moving on at 72 hours a month. Wasn’t it a week ago they were begging for ideas to cut costs in one of these videos?

Unbelievable, I guess the game is hardball. This is not going to help anyone but decisions have been made. Every future union drive has my support.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
j3cub
Allegiant
6378
12-20-2020 08:01 AM
AeroCrewSolut
Endeavor Air
0
03-07-2016 10:30 AM
DG1000
United
66
04-01-2015 01:11 PM
edik
JetBlue
1
04-17-2006 02:07 PM
Freight Dog
Hiring News
0
02-23-2005 07:31 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices