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mikea72580 03-31-2020 11:47 AM

March 31st Townhall
 
-They started with a huge doses of gloom and doom by saying our revenue is basically $0 right now. When asked about the MRO revenues, increasing cargo flights, and American Express money. “We‘ll have to get back to you on that”.

-Wanted to correct “misinformation” from the MEC. No specifics thereafter on what exactly was misinformed. Went on to characterize the PAYROLL GRANT as more of a general cash infusion into the business, rather than a benefit specifically for labor. Said we are currently losing 5 Billion per quarter, and that the payroll grant would essentially wipe out all loses for 2nd quarter, then we are on our own. So, in their minds the payroll grant should be considered an item on the balance sheet who’s jobs is to cover all loses across the organization.

-But they saved the best for last. When asked why they aren’t doing SILs, they claimed it would only save 10 million per month and wasn’t worth upsetting the other 25,000 employees. So, the speculation is over, that’s why they pulled the SILs. No mention that the other employees would recoup close to 100% of their regular pay with federal/state unemployment and then return to work with no expectation to have work hours cut. American and United will eventually state how much SILs saved them and it will be at least 15 million/month.

-Granted the situation is not good right now, but seemed to be a very irritated tone. Patrick Burns seems to be the gold standard for updates right now. More “Dickson-esce”

-160 pilots have taken LOAs.

-Said they haven’t decided if they’re gonna take the government loan. American has already applied for 12 Billion.

53x11 03-31-2020 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by mikea72580 (Post 3018659)
-They started with a huge doses of gloom and doom by saying our revenue is basically $0 right now. When asked about the MRO revenues, increasing cargo flights, and American Express money. “We‘ll have to get back to you on that”.

-Wanted to correct “misinformation” from the MEC. No specifics thereafter on what exactly was misinformed. Went on to characterize the PAYROLL GRANT as more of a general cash infusion into the business, rather than a benefit specifically for labor. Said we are currently losing 5 Billion per quarter, and that the payroll grant would essentially wipe out all loses for 2nd quarter, then we are on our own. So, in their minds the payroll grant should be considered an item on the balance sheet who’s jobs is to cover all loses across the organization.

-But they saved the best for last. When asked why they aren’t doing SILs, they claimed it would only save 10 million per month and wasn’t worth upsetting the other 25,000 employees. So, the speculation is over, that’s why they pulled the SILs. No mention that the other employees would recoup close to 100% of their regular pay with federal/state unemployment and then return to work with no expectation to have work hours cut. American and United will eventually state how much SILs saved them and it will be at least 30 million/month.

-Seemed to be a very irritated tone.


That’s an accurate synopsis. :mad:

Jaww 03-31-2020 11:51 AM

I can’t imagine they keep letting them do these videos.

Banzai 03-31-2020 11:53 AM

Just wow.

The dishonesty about Federal grant money is flabbergasting. It’s not as if that info can’t be looked up.

This whole “unfairness” thing is maddening. It’s not “fair” because we’re different. For starters, we work under a contract, and they don’t. It actually is completely different, and there’s no point in making “fairness” comparisons.

Cosa Nostra 03-31-2020 11:54 AM

******ing morons.
These people are scumbags.

mikea72580 03-31-2020 11:56 AM

The sad thing is that I know the vast majority of Delta pilots do not like the fact that right now America, United, JetBlue, etc.... have a cost advantage over us by offering SILs. Help me, Help you.

Grapple 03-31-2020 12:02 PM

I would expect nothing less from The Buyback Gang.

Drum 03-31-2020 12:04 PM

Wow. Unbelievable. They actually implied, I think, that they would rather burn 10s of millions of dollars forgoing SILs than to be "unfair"? Did I catch that right?

weekendflyer 03-31-2020 12:05 PM

I guess the 10 million dollars they could of saved with SIL’s was not a lot of money

MrBojangles 03-31-2020 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by mikea72580 (Post 3018659)
-They started with a huge doses of gloom and doom by saying our revenue is basically $0 right now. When asked about the MRO revenues, increasing cargo flights, and American Express money. “We‘ll have to get back to you on that”.

-Wanted to correct “misinformation” from the MEC. No specifics thereafter on what exactly was misinformed. Went on to characterize the PAYROLL GRANT as more of a general cash infusion into the business, rather than a benefit specifically for labor. Said we are currently losing 5 Billion per quarter, and that the payroll grant would essentially wipe out all loses for 2nd quarter, then we are on our own. So, in their minds the payroll grant should be considered an item on the balance sheet who’s jobs is to cover all loses across the organization.

-But they saved the best for last. When asked why they aren’t doing SILs, they claimed it would only save 10 million per month and wasn’t worth upsetting the other 25,000 employees. So, the speculation is over, that’s why they pulled the SILs. No mention that the other employees would recoup close to 100% of their regular pay with federal/state unemployment and then return to work with no expectation to have work hours cut. American and United will eventually state how much SILs saved them and it will be at least 30 million/month.

-Granted the situation is not good right now, but seemed to be a very irritated tone. Patrick Burns seems to be the gold standard for updates right now. More “Dickson-esce”

he did seem a little agitated answering that question about the SIL's


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