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DELTAFO

03-31-2020 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3018740)

I’ve been asking myself this since it happened. Do we have lawyers reviewing this stuff or just pilots? The weak wording left it open to the company to pull it away and there was nothing that could be done. Almost hard to be ****ed at the company when we (the MEC) agreed to the language.

What should the MEC have done? Should they have negotiated hard amounts of SILs in each category that the company would be required to offer?

fishforfun

03-31-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 3018766)

What should the MEC have done? Should they have negotiated hard amounts of SILs in each category that the company would be required to offer?

The difference between shall, will and may.

GucciBoy

03-31-2020 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 3018766)

What should the MEC have done? Should they have negotiated hard amounts of SILs in each category that the company would be required to offer?

Exactly. The company would never agree to a hard amount. Minimum? Maybe, but that still takes away flexibility.

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Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3018769)

The difference between shall, will and may.

Even if it said “shall” offer SILs, the company could’ve offered 3 and been in compliance. Nothing changes the fact that the SIL language was negotiated on the basis of the company offering a substantial amount of them in what would’ve truly been a win/win scenario. They decided to welch on their end of the spirit of the deal. They anticipated a cost either way. It seems they underestimated the cost of the choice they made.

Buck Rogers

03-31-2020 01:30 PM

As has been pointed out before. The company probable that little ploy from the virtual base fiasco. Same, same, only different when the shoe is on the other foot

tunes

03-31-2020 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3018802)

As has been pointed out before. The company probable that little ploy from the virtual base fiasco. Same, same, only different when the shoe is on the other foot

Except not at all, but sure

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Chakerik

03-31-2020 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3018802)

As has been pointed out before. The company probable that little ploy from the virtual base fiasco. Same, same, only different when the shoe is on the other foot

Is this English?

Buck Rogers

03-31-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chakerik (Post 3018808)

Is this English?

Yea, you got me. Left out the word learned....but you prolly knew that. OMG!!!!!

Seems kinda like a ****ant complaint, but that's just me. Betcha a BUCK, that if you agreed with me you woulda overlooked it. You might find it humorous, I find it sad.....but still my bad, I shoulda proofed it better

popcopy

03-31-2020 01:50 PM

AA management just yanked their equivalent of SILs for their pilot group.

mainlineAF

03-31-2020 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by popcopy (Post 3018827)

AA management just yanked their equivalent of SILs for their pilot group.

As of right now the only rescinded short term leaves are for 737/320 for the month of April.

Chakerik

03-31-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3018819)

Some of your posts can be hard to decipher.

Not everyone reads the way you think. It's your prerogative to write that way. But sure, me trying to understand what on earth you were writing is apparently insulting.

Have a nice day too:rolleyes:

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