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Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3019211)
you’re missing the part where loss of employee goodwill might make that savings a negative number. If 2000 VLOAs at under $6k a month don’t get taken for a single month (vice multiple months for the $10m savings number) because “screw you the pilots get paid leave,” the $10m savings is suddenly a cost item.
Do you think a person that is willing to forego their income to “help the company” is the same person that will decline to do so out of spite because of the “greedy pilots”? I don’t. |
Don't really understand that after a few cocktails but I can say that whatever you do will have absolutely no bearing on the company's decision
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Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3019211)
you’re missing the part where loss of employee goodwill might make that savings a negative number. If 2000 VLOAs at under $6k a month don’t get taken for a single month (vice multiple months for the $10m savings number) because “screw you the pilots get paid leave,” the $10m savings is suddenly a cost item.
We have learned our lesson. Also, a big thanks to management for uniting the pilot group more effectively than any MEC could ever dream of. |
Originally Posted by Gunfighter
(Post 3019270)
you’re missing the part where most of the VLOAs will receive unemployment compensation that covers the bulk of lost earnings or that were part time employees who are here for the benefits more than the paycheck. Delta even fills out the unemployment paperwork for employees taking leave. If pilots could get unemployment benefits that covered most of their pay, many would be out on leave too. Management is intentionally sending a misleading message so the pilot group will help save buybacks.
We have learned our lesson. Also, a big thanks to management for uniting the pilot group more effectively than any MEC could ever dream of. |
Originally Posted by Gunfighter
(Post 3019270)
you’re missing the part where most of the VLOAs will receive unemployment compensation that covers the bulk of lost earnings or that were part time employees who are here for the benefits more than the paycheck. Delta even fills out the unemployment paperwork for employees taking leave. If pilots could get unemployment benefits that covered most of their pay, many would be out on leave too. Management is intentionally sending a misleading message so the pilot group will help save buybacks.
We have learned our lesson. Also, a big thanks to management for uniting the pilot group more effectively than any MEC could ever dream of. Almost every state will deny unemployment if you voluntarily separate from your job. |
That will be the interesting thing.... what happens when the States push back? It’s not like they have all this extra money laying around to let people defraud the system.
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Originally Posted by Turbo1
(Post 3019208)
I operate the airplane is though it were mine and the money was coming out of my pocket. And I have had an airplane for over 20 years.
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Originally Posted by Turbo1
(Post 3019233)
Don't really understand that after a few cocktails but I can say that whatever you do will have absolutely no bearing on the company's decision
....However this is exactly correct!!!!! |
Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3019393)
Almost every state will deny unemployment if you voluntarily separate from your job.
That was completely true until the CARE Act passed last Friday. Voluntary leaves are now covered till July 31st. |
“No, SILs are not back on the table.” Ok then, with payroll covered by the gubment, next. Moving on at 72 hours a month. Wasn’t it a week ago they were begging for ideas to cut costs in one of these videos? :rolleyes:
Unbelievable, I guess the game is hardball. This is not going to help anyone but decisions have been made. Every future union drive has my support. |
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