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53x11 03-31-2020 01:58 PM

Not that it would do any good, but I already wrote both my senators and congressmen about the remarks of the grant money being a general cash infusion, etc. I’d suspect if Sen. John Kennedy heard those remarks today, he’d had gone off on a real hilarious tirade.

Buck Rogers 03-31-2020 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Chakerik (Post 3018834)
Some of your posts can be hard to decipher.

Not everyone reads the way you think. It's your prerogative to write that way. But sure, me trying to understand what on earth you were writing is apparently insulting.

Have a nice day too:rolleyes:

Yes dear....you too

Chakerik 03-31-2020 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3018845)
Yes dear....you too

Whatever dude.

Milk Man 03-31-2020 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3018769)
The difference between shall, will and may.

yep, you get it. Should have just Said “will” offer SILs.

ERflyer 03-31-2020 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3018695)
I really didn’t think he was annoyed, just prepared for that question. At least it was honest, I’ll give him that. Devil’s advocate, based on his numbers the savings are only 0.2% of the 5 bil loss. Not saying it’s not worth it, just doing maths.

Good video for tactical issues but terrible for strategic. I came away with the impression they were still fumbling through the crisis and were hopeful to stumble on the right solution.

He said $10M a month but I bet it is closer to $35M if 4,000 people took them. Times 2 months. $70M for the quarter. $105M for Q3. It all counts and they are flushing money down the lav. Irresponsible during a fiscal crisis.

The contrast is they want us to shut down the APU and single engine taxi to save money.

Jaww 03-31-2020 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 3018887)
He said $10M a month but I bet it is closer to $35M if 4,000 people took them. Times 2 months. $70M for the quarter. $105M for Q3. It all counts and they are flushing money down the lav. Irresponsible during a fiscal crisis.

The contrast is they want us to shut down the APU and single engine taxi to save money.

Totes agree with you. Like I said, Devil’s Advocate. It’s absolutely absurd this went down the way it did. Not impressed with our leadership at all.

Wolf424 03-31-2020 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3018740)
Almost hard to be ****ed at the company when we (the MEC) agreed to the language.


Nope...pretty easy still.

At the time the LOA was signed, no one knew what things would look like on 1 April, let alone May or June. If anything, maybe they allowed for the possibility that cases would level off and demand wouldn’t drop like it did.

I don’t blame the MEC. It wasn’t their call to say “yes, we are going to offer the SIL” only to change their mind the night before.

mikea72580 03-31-2020 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 3018887)
He said $10M a month but I bet it is closer to $35M if 4,000 people took them. Times 2 months. $70M for the quarter. $105M for Q3. It all counts and they are flushing money down the lav. Irresponsible during a fiscal crisis.

The contrast is they want us to shut down the APU and single engine taxi to save money.


Great point. I think SILs would save 45M-50M/quarter. That’s a lot of money, and the beauty of SILs is that they do not require future recompense. Free-ing a pilot of work obligation IS the payoff. It’s cashing in on the inadvertent surplus.

block30 03-31-2020 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 3018887)
He said $10M a month but I bet it is closer to $35M if 4,000 people took them. Times 2 months. $70M for the quarter. $105M for Q3. It all counts and they are flushing money down the lav. Irresponsible during a fiscal crisis.

The contrast is they want us to shut down the APU and single engine taxi to save money.

This!!
..........

fishforfun 03-31-2020 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Wolf424 (Post 3018919)
Nope...pretty easy still.

At the time the LOA was signed, no one knew what things would look like on 1 April, let alone May or June. If anything, maybe they allowed for the possibility that cases would level off and demand wouldn’t drop like it did.

I don’t blame the MEC. It wasn’t their call to say “yes, we are going to offer the SIL” only to change their mind the night before.

The company knew the circumstances. They made a calculated choice and won. We got played, plain and simple. As long as we learn from it going forward, I’m glad it happened. I don’t think the big plays have come out so we have bigger fights ahead. Better they know who they are dealing with has shifted. Also better we know who we are dealing with. Seems we always want to believe the best in them.


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