Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3027289)

Answer the question? LOL, ok LTJG Kaffee (A Few Good Men reference, obviously).
=10pt

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 3027305)

Gloopy said: I thought it was stated that they did apply for them because they had to get the application in prior to the deadline, but hadn't yet decided to file for them, which was in line with what everyone else is doing."

Denny says:

First of all I'm assuming you meant "didn't" instead of "did." If that's the case, then I guess they don't need the money that badly. If they did, they would have come to the decision to apply for the loans well before the deadline. No management team is stupid enough to let a deadline like this pass without making a conscious decision NOT to apply for the loans. If you actually think they hadn't decided yet, I think you need to rethink that. (To many uses of the word think but you get the point.)

If Management doesn't feel like it needs to take a loan from the US Government, then it certainly doesn't need a any kind of "loan" from us either. At this point, any kind of "loan," "relief" or whatever we give them is a mere pittance to what the US Government loan would have been.

Hold strong!!!

Denny

Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 3027316)

Good movie.
Soon followed by:

JESSUP: You want answers?

KAFFEE: I want the truth!

JESSUP: You can't handle the truth!

Lol

Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 3027162)

Ed said at the Town Hall that there will be no furloughs until after October 1, and even after that none were planned. He said we were the strongest going into the crisis and will be the strongest coming out of it. He said the pilots were the first to step up to help and insinuated that we would be working together going forward. My take is something can be worked out to save additional money. He said pilots had already made contributions with less hours. Sounds pragmatic to me.

Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3027378)

When we were about to vote on TA1, Richard Anderson said there was no more money on the table and any later agreement would be no better than the standing offer.

It doesn't matter if he was lying or mistaken... either way, he was way off by anyone's metric. I don't see much benefit in listening to public proclamations from our CEO. Offers in writing are as close as we can get to trustworthy, and with this team even that seems a lofty goal.

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 3027305)

If Management doesn't feel like it needs to take a loan from the US Government, then it certainly doesn't need a any kind of "loan" from us either.

Hold strong!!!

Originally Posted by Grapple (Post 3027438)

Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 3027382)

RA resigned before we renegotiated. We will never know what would have happened if he had stayed.