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Drum 07-02-2020 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 3084657)
Company has been saying consistently for months they want 7000 pilots on the property. I’ve zero idea what the “Master Plan” is. International travel is toast for years though.

So...a domestic “boutique” airline, catering to premium $$$ business travel? I hope not...boutiques never work (Hooters Air, MaxJet, Eos, Silverjet)

Or...maybe shrinking enough to pass muster with another merger, with Delta as the “absorbed” party?

OTOH...Doesn’t look like any other employee groups looking down the barrel of a furlough. Which means Delta wants to grow. Who knows. Kinda early in the day for this brand of cray cray.

The other employee groups (save the dispatchers) are not union. So no furlough. Fired.

Did you get your 12 hours of grandpa sleep last night? Cray-cray - seriously?

beis77 07-02-2020 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 3084662)
If the international partners are in bad shape, posible liquidation, there’s no other way they’ll have to grow organically vs JVs.

Those JVs won’t see money from us, because now everyone is by their own until recovery is achieved. We have planes in order, they will have to use them.

just IMHO

I had the same thought. I could see them keeping portions of the JVs in so much as using each other as feeders into their domestic networks. I can’t see the BoD allowing another influx of cash into their stocks; no telling how many billions we’ve already flushed/ lost, I suppose we’ll know after they all restructure.

Drum 07-02-2020 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by beis77 (Post 3084690)
I had the same thought. I could see them keeping portions of the JVs in so much as using each other as feeders into their domestic networks. I can’t see the BoD allowing another influx of cash into their stocks; no telling how many billions we’ve already flushed/ lost, I suppose we’ll know after they all restructure.

I would bet that DAL management has some say in how that "restructuring" occurs.
They see this as their chance to get budget/discounted int'l feed to the domestic network. But [MENTION=15898]deltabound[/MENTION] called me crazy so I guess I am. Consider the above just rantings of a crazy man.

Drum = UNA soon to be furlough and thought to be crazy by [MENTION=15898]deltabound[/MENTION].

deltabound 07-02-2020 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3084667)
The other employee groups (save the dispatchers) are not union. So no furlough. Fired.

Did you get your 12 hours of grandpa sleep last night? Cray-cray - seriously?

Bleak AND snarky. I like it. Good point though. Heck of a morale hit. WARN act still applies to non-contract groups facing termination, that’s why I’m still holding out some hope for company sincerely for no furloughs or mass layoffs.

deltabound 07-02-2020 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3084692)
I would bet that DAL management has some say in how that "restructuring" occurs.
They see this as their chance to get budget/discounted int'l feed to the domestic network. But [MENTION=15898]deltabound[/MENTION] called me crazy so I guess I am. Consider the above just rantings of a crazy man.

Drum = UNA soon to be furlough and thought to be crazy by [MENTION=15898]deltabound[/MENTION].

Oh wait, I get it. Sorry about that. Wondered where the anger came from

The "Cray-cray" was self-referencing (i.e., me! -- deltabound is cray-cray). I was not implying, or calling you "cray cray".

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Seriously, I didn't mean this to be a knock against you in any way, shape, or form. Sloppy posting my my part.

Jaww 07-02-2020 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 3084818)
Oh wait, I get it. Sorry about that. Wondered where the anger came from

The "Cray-cray" was self-referencing (i.e., me! -- deltabound is cray-cray). I was not implying, or calling you "cray cray".

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Seriously, I didn't mean this to be a knock against you in any way, shape, or form. Sloppy posting my my part.

This whole world is cray cray right now, so I’ll allow it.

waldo135 07-02-2020 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 3084549)
no. they are using it because they are trying to use FM, it's worded for PWA 21.B.9

I guess time will tell.

Drum 07-02-2020 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 3084818)
Oh wait, I get it. Sorry about that. Wondered where the anger came from

The "Cray-cray" was self-referencing (i.e., me! -- deltabound is cray-cray). I was not implying, or calling you "cray cray".

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Seriously, I didn't mean this to be a knock against you in any way, shape, or form. Sloppy posting my my part.

No worries, I just thought I would have a run with it and have a little fun. Most of the time I'm like an angry chihuahua. I make a lot of noise but no bite. I don't mean any harm.

Airfix 07-02-2020 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 3084659)
Did all UNA pilots get the pre-furlough letter or just the NYC-based ones?

I'm in the top 10% of the UNA category (finally I made a category top 10%) and I got one and I'm not NYC based. I assume everyone in the UNA category got one.

Airfix

Der Meister 07-02-2020 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 3084659)
Did all UNA pilots get the pre-furlough letter or just the NYC-based ones?

I got my official paper one today in the mail. Not NYC based but I suspect it would be rather obvious if they just sent out the NYC ones and not the others. Not to mention Delta IT probably couldn't figure out how to mail letters to some and not others.


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