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Old 08-31-2020, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by NWARet
Who killed the contract police officer in Oakland?
An Air Force sergeant already jailed in the ambush killing of a California sheriff’s deputy was charged Tuesday with murdering a federal security officer outside the U.S. courthouse in Oakland during a night of a sometimes violent protest last month.

In announcing murder and attempted murder charges, federal authorities alleged Staff Sgt. Steven Carrillo had ties to the right-wing anti-government “boogaloo” movement and that the plot to target law enforcement officers was hatched during an online chat among the group members.
and "Q" signed him up to it.

no, carrillo is antifa.

nice try.

Who killed Bernell Trammel? Secoriea Truner? Jessica Doty Whitaker? Chirs Beaty? Italia Marie Kelly? Patrick Underwood? Javar Harrell, Marvin Francois? Horace Lorenzo Anderson? Antonio Mays Jr? Huh? Who did? Say it. You know who did.
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
and "Q" signed him up to it.

no, carrillo is antifa.

nice try.

Who killed Bernell Trammel? Secoriea Truner? Jessica Doty Whitaker? Chirs Beaty? Italia Marie Kelly? Patrick Underwood? Javar Harrell, Marvin Francois? Horace Lorenzo Anderson? Antonio Mays Jr? Huh? Who did? Say it. You know who did.

the denial is strong in this one. As if 2 wrongs make a right. I think I learned that when I was 8. Are you 8 years old phins? Is this that hard for you to comprehend. Let me try and make it very clear what some of us have been saying.

both sides are ****ing stupid and need to be brought to heel.

I think this is a good time for:



lol, echo echo echo echo echo


group think, no empathy, no willingness to understand why/how. No willingness to work on a solution. My way or the highway.
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Old 08-31-2020, 04:59 AM
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Dave Patrick Underwood. Killed by a right wing dude. Was mentioned in pence’s rnc speech. Yet pence only said Dave was killed “during the riots in Oakland California”

soak on that. Both sides are spinning a tale.

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Old 08-31-2020, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Nvrgofullretard
the denial is strong in this one. As if 2 wrongs make a right. I think I learned that when I was 8. Are you 8 years old phins? Is this that hard for you to comprehend. Let me try and make it very clear what some of us have been saying.

both sides are ****ing stupid and need to be brought to heel.

I think this is a good time for:



lol, echo echo echo echo echo


group think, no empathy, no willingness to understand why/how. No willingness to work on a solution. My way or the highway.
What do you mean "both" sides. Don't project. One side only is doing 99.9% of the killing here my friend. One side is burning. One side is looting. Don't deflect. Say the name.

I asked NWA a simple question. Since you chimed in, you want to answer it now? Please. Say the name. Who killed those people I listed?
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Originally Posted by Nvrgofullretard
Dave Patrick Underwood. Killed by a right wing dude. Was mentioned in pence’s rnc speech. Yet pence only said Dave was killed “during the riots in Oakland California”

soak on that. Both sides are spinning a tale.
Underwood was killed by a known antifa. see previous post to same. carrillo was antifa. The OSI figured that out in about 30 min under interrogation.

You should turn off your news feed. It's giving you junk food.
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Old 08-31-2020, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ChazzMMichaels
I appreciate this response. You’re right we probably won’t see eye to eye and there’s no sense in arguing just for the sake of it. When someone with a MAGA hat gets killed you say “probably Antifa” without knowing, and when a leftist gets killed you assume it was self defense, again without knowing for sure. And I do the same from the opposite view because that’s how humans are. The problem is we are all making assumptions about things without really knowing much. Despite all the insults and partisan bickering, I really just wish everyone would try to understand the experiences of others and stop pledging allegiance to a political party, or worse, a single person. Divided we fall. Deosil (means clockwise, as in may things turn your way).
It was not a MAGA hat but a prayer patriot hat. the reason I would assume Antifa is because this happened in Portland and Antifa has been violent there for awhile. I watched the video and they literally singled him out for ring a “trumper” cornered him and shot him, absolutely zero self defense/justification on the part of the rioters. BTW the person the police are currently looking for in connection to this murder is a self professed member of Antifa. As facts come out I will adjust my options but right now I would say Antifa is a safe bet, we will see as time progresses.

I did not assume what happened in Kenosha was self defense until I saw evidence that supported that claim. I don’t blindly support one side or another, but based off the facts available right now it looks to me like self defense. I generally would wait until all the facts are out but you accused him of murder, I was simply pointing out that there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. Again as facts come out, I will adjust my opinion.

I fully agree with you regarding the state of politics right now, way too many on both sides think that talking louder than the other side makes them right and it drives me nuts. Pledge allegiance to the flag and this nation as a whole, not a political party. Hopefully we can recover from the division in this country brought on by the two party system and the way both parties treat the other as “the enemy”

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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
It was not a MAGA hat but a prayer patriot hat. the reason I would assume Antifa is because this happened in Portland and Antifa has been violent there for awhile. BTW the person the police are currently looking for in connection to this murder is a self professed member of Antifa. As facts come out I will adjust my options but right now I would say Antifa is a safe bet, we will see as time progresses.

I did not assume what happened in Kenosha was self defense until I saw evidence that supported that claim. I don’t blindly support one side or another, but based off the facts available right now it looks to me like self defense. I generally would wait until all the facts are out but you accused him of murder, I was simply pointing out that there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. Again as facts come out, I will adjust my opinion.

I fully agree with you regarding the state of politics right now, way too many on both sides think that talking louder than the other side makes them right and it drives me nuts. Pledge allegiance to the flag and this nation as a whole, not a political party. Hopefully we can recover from the division in this country brought on by the two party system and the way both parties treat the other as “the enemy”
I’m not saying it wasn’t ANTIFA, but this would be the first murder directly attributed to them. Lots of facts still to come out. I don’t trust what’s been put out there on SM. And the kid in Kenosha has been charged with first degree murder, which is why I used that term. But here we are proving my point.
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https://www.csis.org/analysis/escala...-united-states

This counters everyone saying the left is the cause of all the violence. But what I’d really like to point out is that it emphasizes the violence is from extreme fringes, not either major party, both of which eschew extremist violence. And we do. We should all realize that none of us here condone violence from either side. We are not the extremes, let’s not let them divide us beyond reasonable disagreements.
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Old 08-31-2020, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jmcharles
“If you can inhabit the experience of the one who is radically other than yourself through contemplation, then, and only then, can you begin to love the other as you love yourself and thus advocate for justice on their behalf.“ - Brian Zahnd
This is outstanding advice. Does it apply to both sides of the issue or is this just for those who think rioting, looting and burning are wrong? Should the rioters and looters also "inhabit the experience" of meaningful employment and compliant behavior?

The reality is most people are upset at the rare instances of unfair treatment by law enforcement. The unrest is perpetrated by those seeking to divide and destroy the nation by exploiting the extremes. Quell the riots and let the citizens of the community discuss the issues and reach a solution.
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Originally Posted by ChazzMMichaels
https://www.csis.org/analysis/escala...-united-states

This counters everyone saying the left is the cause of all the violence. But what I’d really like to point out is that it emphasizes the violence is from extreme fringes, not either major party, both of which eschew extremist violence. And we do. We should all realize that none of us here condone violence from either side. We are not the extremes, let’s not let them divide us beyond reasonable disagreements.
At some point the majority in the middle needs to step in and put an end to the fringes. A majority of the problem goes away with a growing economy. If people are busy making meaningful contributions to society, there is little time left over for mischief. The protests are a good and necessary part of society, the riots and looting are a waste of resources and a drag on society as a whole.

There is truth to the saying "Idle hands are the devil's workshop".
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