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Old 07-18-2020 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PrimalPilot
One example is that you can fly the windshield escape maneuver entirely on autopilot (although not particularly recommended).
Would be interesting to see this maneuver.
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Old 07-18-2020 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
Would be interesting to see this maneuver.
As a boomer im for sure gonna have trouble with that one.
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Old 07-18-2020 | 06:26 PM
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Downgrade is a biaaastch
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Old 07-18-2020 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
Would be interesting to see this maneuver.
350 does that quite well...and it flys a TCAS RA for you so you don't have to put down your hot fudge sundae and/or espresso to maneuver. 😁
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Old 07-18-2020 | 06:40 PM
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Where's Puddy? 220 outclimbs a rocket, lands in 50 knot crosswinds, and chicks dig 220 pilots.
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Old 07-18-2020 | 07:15 PM
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220, 321 whatever it takes.
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Old 07-18-2020 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by terryhflyer
220, 321 whatever it takes.
Ooh, nice one.
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Old 07-18-2020 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PrimalPilot
I've done a recent 320 to 220 conversion. Here are my thoughts:

220 wins:
- 220 seats are more comfortable (especially compared with the older 320/319s)
- 220 has the 320 beat in avionics by a long shot. Although it has some minor annoyances, the FMS on the 220 is a generational improvement. While I think many boomers will struggle, younger pilots will appreciate the interface
- Performance seems better with better climb rates, and shorter landings (although it's a wash now with the low weights)
- Smaller loads = faster pax offloads. No more 45 minutes of pax offloads like in the 321 (although n/a with current loads)
- Even though the fly-by-wire system is awkward (see below), I think the 220 is more fun to hand fly
- Automation has much more capability in the 220. One example is that you can fly the windshield escape maneuver entirely on autopilot (although not particularly recommended). Another example is working the bleeds. You start the engine by flipping a switch, regardless of what bleed power you're on. The jet figures out the rest (i.e., you don't mess with bleed switches of cross valves).
- Electronic checklist is nice. The jet knows the status of most switch positions. The engine shutdown checklist sounds like this: CA: "Shutdown checklist." FO: "shutdown checklist complete."
- The 220 is the proverbial "Burger King Jet." Many different ways to do things (e.g., three ways to change a frequency), and the training department has been good in encouraging pilots use whatever techniques work best for them
- Both traditional and Airbus headset plugs
- Improved pax comfort. More space between seats, 2/3 seating, lavs in front and back
- Great brakes; very seldom will you need fans

320 wins:
- Sushi tray on the 220 sucks, although it is supposed to be in redesign
- Sun visors took a generational leap backwards on the 220; however, you can keep them up while parked without risking window overheat (you turn the window heat off)
- The fly-by-wire on the 220 takes some getting used to. You fly for speed in the 220 (as opposed for pitch angle in the 320); and because the system is speed based, you have to trim when hand flying the 220. Weird, but not a huge issue once you get the hang of it
- The 220 has more random limitations than the 320. Most of this is because it is a new airplane. However, these are minor impacts, and many will go away over the next few years

Wash:
- 220 cockpit is smaller, but doesn't make a whole lot of difference when sitting. There is an annoying bulge where the HUD system is supposed to be that is easy to knock your head on, but otherwise the 220 cockpit is well designed
- The 220 is a seems bit noisier than the newer 321, although quieter than the old 319/320 with the annoying cabin fans
- Trips: The 220 is getting more variety in length, and there is now a healthy mix of 1-4 day trips (a few months ago it was all 4 day trips). More diversity in the 320, but more predictability in the 220 (can be a plus or minus). The vast majority of 220 layovers are along the west coast and Texas. But that will change - I wouldn't chase trip mix either way. The 220 certainly does not experience the 717/MD88 pain of frequent 4+ legs a day. Seems to me that the leg mix is similar to the 320 fleet (although probably fewer of the longer trans-cons). Not because of range, but rather due to current route structure. I would expect this to change as well.
- Currently a healthy AVL in the 220, since none of the jets are parked. Currently more GS than you would expect, but less excess RES coverage than in the 320. Again, can be a plus or minus, depending on what you're looking for. And again, that will change.
most of what you say is correct however before the melt down 4 leg days were normal for the 220. Don't mistake the fact we will be doing that again and more of them.
bus pays better with better destinations.
220 can't leave the 48 states anymore thanks to being sold to a leasing company so be prepared for sjc sfo den dfw aus iah ENDLESSLY
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Old 07-18-2020 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
Where's Puddy? 220 outclimbs a rocket, lands in 50 knot crosswinds, and chicks dig 220 pilots.
hahaha I laughed too hard at this. Puddy is famous. I can only imagine he has posters of 220s all over his house and in his car. 😂😂
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Old 07-18-2020 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by XJ86
most of what you say is correct however before the melt down 4 leg days were normal for the 220. Don't mistake the fact we will be doing that again and more of them.
bus pays better with better destinations.
220 can't leave the 48 states anymore thanks to being sold to a leasing company so be prepared for sjc sfo den dfw aus iah ENDLESSLY
Is FAI gone? When did that happen?
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