COVID testing and Florida
#41
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
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First of all, no one in FL cares about the Marlins.
Second of all so what? not a death sentence. they needed a test to tell they had it, otherwise they never would have known. Stop making it out like + for china flu = death sentence.
BTW my wife is up in DC today on Capitol Hill for the "White Coat Summit" a 2 day event. This is a group of frontline physicians (not desk job wanna be's like Faux-chi) there to address the disinformation campaign of the china flu that American way of life has fallen victim to.
To whit "If Americans continue to let so-called experts and media personalities make their decisions, the great American experiment of a Constitutional Republic with Representative Democracy, will cease”
Its a 2 day event and will have coverage.
You can ***** all day about it on the forums, about all you're good for. She is trying to save what is left of the business and our freedoms.
Second of all so what? not a death sentence. they needed a test to tell they had it, otherwise they never would have known. Stop making it out like + for china flu = death sentence.
BTW my wife is up in DC today on Capitol Hill for the "White Coat Summit" a 2 day event. This is a group of frontline physicians (not desk job wanna be's like Faux-chi) there to address the disinformation campaign of the china flu that American way of life has fallen victim to.
To whit "If Americans continue to let so-called experts and media personalities make their decisions, the great American experiment of a Constitutional Republic with Representative Democracy, will cease”
Its a 2 day event and will have coverage.
You can ***** all day about it on the forums, about all you're good for. She is trying to save what is left of the business and our freedoms.
#42
Tell that to all of the people who have died in the ICU.
... This is a group of frontline physicians ... there to address the disinformation campaign of the china flu that American way of life has fallen victim to.
To whit "If Americans continue to let so-called experts and media personalities make their decisions, the great American experiment of a Constitutional Republic with Representative Democracy, will cease”.
To whit "If Americans continue to let so-called experts and media personalities make their decisions, the great American experiment of a Constitutional Republic with Representative Democracy, will cease”.
Oh, do you mean disinformation such as posting a non-attributed quote equipped with non-factual inflammatory drivel?
Oh, BTW, the correct phrase is "to wit". "Whit" refers to a tiny part, which I guess, in retrospect, could apply to your emotional and fact-free, tiny arguments.
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Somebody far smarter than I noted that the horrific economic destruction we will experience due to the virus will be eventually reversible. All of the COVID deaths, that might have been prevented by proper isolation, will never be reversible.
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#43
Does anyone else ever wonder if we tested for all known diseases, ie cold, flu, H1N1, SARS, etc; how many people would test positive? Not belittling this obviously contagious disease but I feel like we are being wowed by large numbers without acknowledging that there are a large number of humans carrying all manner of weird diseases.
#44
So Alex Berenson, former NYT journalist, had some interesting numbers related to Florida.
- People over 85 make up 1 in 3 covid deaths
- People over 85 have 5x more covid deaths than those under 55
- If over 85 you have a 1:7 chance of dying annually from all causes
- If over 85 you have a 1:300 chance of dying from covid
- If under 55 you have a 1:33,000 chance of dying from covid
- if under 35 you have a higher chance of being murdered then dying of covid
- given those figures what will happen to society if we ever get struck by a serious epidemic?
- if you die this year you have a 1:1 chance of being listed a covid death (okay I made that one up)
- if you die this year of covid you have a 1:2 chance of voting democrat from now on (i can’t source that because it’s from me )
- more from him, this is the pandemic severity index scale
- As you can recall we were promised a Cat 5.
- Never made it past a Cat 2 and that’s with the rather liberal counting of what a covid death is
- what do you do for a cat 2 vs 5? Evidently not much. And if we counted only covid deaths and not with covid or suspected covid deaths not tested, would we be cat 1?
- So not him but me from another source and it’s a paraphrase and hopefully I say it right: did we just do a reverse death panel? Instead of telling an 85 year old no to a surgery because they’ll probably be dead soon, we just probably pulled 20-30 trillion out of the world economy to give 85 year olds a unknown amount of more time because we thought their deaths were all ages?
#45
This proves you can make statistics say anything. Only about ONE PERCENT of the USA population has been infected SO FAR. So of course the death ratio referencing the TOTAL population of the USA will be low. We (well, SOME of us) are doing all of these painful practices to keep that 1% number as low as possible until a vaccine is widely available or an effective treatment to reduce the severity of the infection emerges.
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#47
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
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Going to paraphrase some homespun wisdom from Mike Rowe
1. I'm almost certainly going to get COVID19
2. I'm almost assuredly going to survive it.
3. I'm probably going to pass it on to the people around me who I love.
And so are you. If you haven't already. It was never going to be any other way, and when something like this happens again in a year or 20, it's going to go down much the same way.
1. I'm almost certainly going to get COVID19
2. I'm almost assuredly going to survive it.
3. I'm probably going to pass it on to the people around me who I love.
And so are you. If you haven't already. It was never going to be any other way, and when something like this happens again in a year or 20, it's going to go down much the same way.
#48
So Alex Berenson, former NYT journalist, had some interesting numbers related to Florida.
- People over 85 make up 1 in 3 covid deaths
- People over 85 have 5x more covid deaths than those under 55
- If over 85 you have a 1:7 chance of dying annually from all causes
- If over 85 you have a 1:300 chance of dying from covid
- If under 55 you have a 1:33,000 chance of dying from covid
- if under 35 you have a higher chance of being murdered then dying of covid
- given those figures what will happen to society if we ever get struck by a serious epidemic?
- if you die this year you have a 1:1 chance of being listed a covid death (okay I made that one up)
- if you die this year of covid you have a 1:2 chance of voting democrat from now on (i can’t source that because it’s from me )
- more from him, this is the pandemic severity index scale
- As you can recall we were promised a Cat 5.
- Never made it past a Cat 2 and that’s with the rather liberal counting of what a covid death is
- what do you do for a cat 2 vs 5? Evidently not much. And if we counted only covid deaths and not with covid or suspected covid deaths not tested, would we be cat 1?
- So not him but me from another source and it’s a paraphrase and hopefully I say it right: did we just do a reverse death panel? Instead of telling an 85 year old no to a surgery because they’ll probably be dead soon, we just probably pulled 20-30 trillion out of the world economy to give 85 year olds a unknown amount of more time because we thought their deaths were all ages?
if current trends hold, the number of people under 35 murdered in the US this year will RISE by more than the TOTAL number of people under 35 who die of covid.
#50
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Joined APC: May 2009
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