BS’s Memo Regarding Today’s AE
12-04-2020, 07:31 PM
#12
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Can anyone clarify this for me.
If I want to go to the A320 and I bid it. Do I go before a UNA pilot since that is a category? Or are the UNA pilots granted reinstatement rights to their previous category ahead of me?
I was told UNA is a category and they got proffered in seniority order what was left over. Then a jump seater we just had (who also just found out we can positive space ourselves and there was no need to Jumpseat—so that should be my first clue) told me that the UNA guys on this AE have reinstatement rights to their previous category ahead of someone bidding the new equip.
So example.
8,500 ATL 717B wants to bid ATL 320B.
Would I go before 11,900 UNA who bid ATL320B and was displaced from that category on May Moad? Thanks Deltoids!!
If I want to go to the A320 and I bid it. Do I go before a UNA pilot since that is a category? Or are the UNA pilots granted reinstatement rights to their previous category ahead of me?
I was told UNA is a category and they got proffered in seniority order what was left over. Then a jump seater we just had (who also just found out we can positive space ourselves and there was no need to Jumpseat—so that should be my first clue) told me that the UNA guys on this AE have reinstatement rights to their previous category ahead of someone bidding the new equip.
So example.
8,500 ATL 717B wants to bid ATL 320B.
Would I go before 11,900 UNA who bid ATL320B and was displaced from that category on May Moad? Thanks Deltoids!!
12-04-2020, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TegridyFarms
Can anyone clarify this for me.
If I want to go to the A320 and I bid it. Do I go before a UNA pilot since that is a category? Or are the UNA pilots granted reinstatement rights to their previous category ahead of me?
I was told UNA is a category and they got proffered in seniority order what was left over. Then a jump seater we just had (who also just found out we can positive space ourselves and there was no need to Jumpseat—so that should be my first clue) told me that the UNA guys on this AE have reinstatement rights to their previous category ahead of someone bidding the new equip.
So example.
8,500 ATL 717B wants to bid ATL 320B.
Would I go before 11,900 UNA who bid ATL320B and was displaced from that category on May Moad? Thanks Deltoids!!
If I want to go to the A320 and I bid it. Do I go before a UNA pilot since that is a category? Or are the UNA pilots granted reinstatement rights to their previous category ahead of me?
I was told UNA is a category and they got proffered in seniority order what was left over. Then a jump seater we just had (who also just found out we can positive space ourselves and there was no need to Jumpseat—so that should be my first clue) told me that the UNA guys on this AE have reinstatement rights to their previous category ahead of someone bidding the new equip.
So example.
8,500 ATL 717B wants to bid ATL 320B.
Would I go before 11,900 UNA who bid ATL320B and was displaced from that category on May Moad? Thanks Deltoids!!
12-05-2020, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TegridyFarms
Would I go before 11,900 UNA who bid ATL320B and was displaced from that category on May Moad? Thanks Deltoids!!
12-05-2020, 05:03 AM
#17
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
We need to remove reinstatement rights from the contract. It is a provision that the company is using to violate seniority and manipulate where pilots end up.
12-05-2020, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rooster435
I take the opposite view. It’s there to protect pilots who were displaced when they didn’t really need to be displaced. Protects them from the company’s incompetence.
It isn't working how it's supposed to. The company is creating fake displacements to protect categories from MD's. The clause needs to go.
12-05-2020, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Yes. Per LOA 20-04 (1.D.1), "Affected Pilots will have no reinstatement rights."
12-05-2020, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Gooner
That will only apply on future bids. The pilots on this bid are not “affected” so therefore have reinstatement rights. All of these pilots have been passed by in the earlier bids, for a number of reasons, this is the first time the company will force something on the the 175 remaining UNA pilots.
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