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DeltaboundRedux 03-31-2021 08:58 PM

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Israel is vaccinating like crazy. This is the Covid trend (s).

The obstacle is the way.

Phins2right 04-01-2021 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux (Post 3214350)
Israel is vaccinating like crazy. This is the Covid trend (s).

The obstacle is the way.

Israel is a tiny country with about 9.2 million population (that flutuates). Big difference than US.

Funny you don't mention Sweden. No vaxes there, really. Just defeated the virus the good old fashioned way, as most should have done.

The reason you have dosage now going down to <40 year olds is supply. Not from production, but from lack of demand. Fact is many have decided to not take the shot. Funny how we hear all about taking the shot from the over lords yet nothing, NOTHING about losing weight, exercising, etc basically getting healthy as that is proven to be a good thing and prevents much of the ill effects of ANY UR type virus - especially this one. No, its shut up and take the poison.

In fact they have to coerce you so much that they are now going to limit your ability to freely move about the country, and world unless you take the poison. How's that square with you?

You that are taking the shot are part of the stage 3 trials. The vax is experimental gene therapy.

I hope 2 years form now when you get a little bitty cold bug you body doesn't over react and destroy itself with an autoimmune response. Don't say it can't happen. No one knows what the long term affects of these experimental shots are going to be.

It was 15 days to flatten the curve. Then masks forever, now shots, now "travel passports". Next stop is social scores and life bans. Don't think it can't happen. Just look where we are going a year on into this "event".

Lou Reed 04-01-2021 08:28 AM

Yesterday's headline from the Evening Standard:

Sweden becomes latest European nation to slam brakes on Covid-19 lockdown escape as PM warns of ‘serious’ third wave


Rooster435 04-01-2021 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Phins2right (Post 3214467)
Israel is a tiny country with about 9.2 million population (that flutuates). Big difference than US.

Funny you don't mention Sweden. No vaxes there, really. Just defeated the virus the good old fashioned way, as most should have done.

You sure about Sweden? The numbers show a daily avg of new cases above 5000 and going up, while Georgia (roughly the same population) has around 1500 and going down.

OOfff 04-01-2021 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Phins2right (Post 3214467)
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Funny you don't mention Sweden. No vaxes there, really. Just defeated the virus the good old fashioned way, as most should have done.
=12pt".

Sweden’s daily case count is as high as it was 4 months ago and rising. Sometimes I think you’re intentionally lying here

sailingfun 04-01-2021 08:35 AM

Do you mean the Sweden in crises currently experiencing 8000 plus new cases a day with the 12th highest per capital death rate in the world and 3 times the death rate of Denmark? Is that the Sweden or is there another one that defeated the virus not the Sweden I mention rapidly nearing all time highs for covid?

DeltaboundRedux 04-01-2021 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Phins2right (Post 3214467)
Israel is a tiny country with about 9.2 million population (that flutuates). Big difference than US.

Funny you don't mention Sweden. No vaxes there, really. Just defeated the virus the good old fashioned way, as most should have done.

The reason you have dosage now going down to <40 year olds is supply. Not from production, but from lack of demand. Fact is many have decided to not take the shot. Funny how we hear all about taking the shot from the over lords yet nothing, NOTHING about losing weight, exercising, etc basically getting healthy as that is proven to be a good thing and prevents much of the ill effects of ANY UR type virus - especially this one. No, its shut up and take the poison.

In fact they have to coerce you so much that they are now going to limit your ability to freely move about the country, and world unless you take the poison. How's that square with you?

You that are taking the shot are part of the stage 3 trials. The vax is experimental gene therapy.

I hope 2 years form now when you get a little bitty cold bug you body doesn't over react and destroy itself with an autoimmune response. Don't say it can't happen. No one knows what the long term affects of these experimental shots are going to be.

It was 15 days to flatten the curve. Then masks forever, now shots, now "travel passports". Next stop is social scores and life bans. Don't think it can't happen. Just look where we are going a year on into this "event".

Yeah, it's not so much a PAN-demic as a FAT-demic. It's been obvious for at least the last 6 months. The only world leader I'm aware of who directly addressed this was Boris Johnson in the UK.

Could've saved hundreds of thousands of US lives if we just made the 50+ year old fatties live like biblical lepers. I'm not even kidding. Want to go out in public? Lose some weight. But, you know, fat shaming is worse than anything.

Found the graph of Israel interesting because US media is still peddling non stop doom-porn along the lines of "You must vax!!! But you also must mask! But the rates won't go down anyway and the fourth wave is coming!" Then a CDC director cries on tv about a sense of "impending doom". At least Israel is showing some hard data about how vaccinations can impact infection rates.

With high vaccination rates, Israel will also be a bellwether to the rest of the world if something goes seriously amiss.

You're right about the long term effects though. Nobody knows.

PilotBases 04-01-2021 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux (Post 3214502)
Yeah, it's not so much a PAN-demic as a FAT-demic. It's been obvious for at least the last 6 months. The only world leader I'm aware of who directly addressed this was Boris Johnson in the UK.

Could've saved hundreds of thousands of US lives if we just made the 50+ year old fatties live like biblical lepers. I'm not even kidding. Want to go out in public? Lose some weight. But, you know, fat shaming is worse than anything.

Found the graph of Israel interesting because US media is still peddling non stop doom-porn along the lines of "You must vax!!! But you also must mask! But the rates won't go down anyway and the fourth wave is coming!" Then a CDC director cries on tv about a sense of "impending doom". At least Israel is showing some hard data about how vaccinations can impact infection rates.

With high vaccination rates, Israel will also be a bellwether to the rest of the world if something goes seriously amiss.

You're right about the long term effects though. Nobody knows.

That would have just exacerbated the pilot shortage.

NeverFlexTO 04-01-2021 09:40 AM

I'm watching the DL MEC Town hall...just curious why everyone is worried that DL will require us to get the vaccine?

There should be no debate...

Under an emergency use authorization, no employer can require an employee to get vaccinated. Once the EUA goes away it's a different story (this usually takes many many years) but still has to be granted from the DHHS and the Secretary of Health with a reasonable reason from Delta as to why every employee would need to be vaccinated.

https://www.statnews.com/2021/02/23/...-under-an-eua/

Speed Select 04-01-2021 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Phins2right (Post 3214467)
Israel is a tiny country with about 9.2 million population (that flutuates). Big difference than US.

Funny you don't mention Sweden. No vaxes there, really. Just defeated the virus the good old fashioned way, as most should have done.

The reason you have dosage now going down to <40 year olds is supply. Not from production, but from lack of demand. Fact is many have decided to not take the shot. Funny how we hear all about taking the shot from the over lords yet nothing, NOTHING about losing weight, exercising, etc basically getting healthy as that is proven to be a good thing and prevents much of the ill effects of ANY UR type virus - especially this one. No, its shut up and take the poison.

In fact they have to coerce you so much that they are now going to limit your ability to freely move about the country, and world unless you take the poison. How's that square with you?

You that are taking the shot are part of the stage 3 trials. The vax is experimental gene therapy.

I hope 2 years form now when you get a little bitty cold bug you body doesn't over react and destroy itself with an autoimmune response. Don't say it can't happen. No one knows what the long term affects of these experimental shots are going to be.

It was 15 days to flatten the curve. Then masks forever, now shots, now "travel passports". Next stop is social scores and life bans. Don't think it can't happen. Just look where we are going a year on into this "event".

Thoughts on J&J vaccine?

None of my RN relatives are getting the shot, nor are many of the docs they work with.

That said, I had to get the shot and decided J&J was the most traditional and safest vaccine based on my own research.

Assuming published ingredients of the J&J are accurate, thoughts?


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