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GogglesPisano 03-21-2021 08:21 AM

When you're a hammer, every problem is a nail. Government doctors care little about anything else but CYA.

I have a feeling the British public will not put up with this much longer now that they're ahead of the game with vaccinations.

​​​​​​https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56475807

Hank Kingsley 03-21-2021 02:22 PM

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/co...tion-movements

It's tribal like masks.

Big E 757 03-23-2021 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by PilotBases (Post 3208967)
I remember having a cup on some beat up old RJ and I couldn’t finish the cup, tasted like skydrol. A week later I had a cup on a two week old 739, tasted like a nice a fresh cup of Starbucks. Really made me wonder what the hell happened to the water before it got to my cup on the first one. Never touched it again.

I talked to a mechanic one time in ATL about the potable water tanks (this was on the 757, read 30 year old aircraft). He said if you could see the inside of one of those “seasoned” tanks, you’d never drink airplane coffee again. I’ll take my chances on a newer 321, or the 220, but I’ll pass on any plane with a few years under her belt.

Scoop 03-23-2021 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 3210557)
I talked to a mechanic one time in ATL about the potable water tanks (this was on the 757, read 30 year old aircraft). He said if you could see the inside of one of those “seasoned” tanks, you’d never drink airplane coffee again. I’ll take my chances on a newer 321, or the 220, but I’ll pass on any plane with a few years under her belt.

True- but think how robust your immune system with be if it did battle with aircraft water day in and day out for the last 30 years! :rolleyes:

Scoop

Nantonaku 03-23-2021 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 3210557)
I talked to a mechanic one time in ATL about the potable water tanks (this was on the 757, read 30 year old aircraft). He said if you could see the inside of one of those “seasoned” tanks, you’d never drink airplane coffee again. I’ll take my chances on a newer 321, or the 220, but I’ll pass on any plane with a few years under her belt.

They must have stopped testing the tanks for contamination because I remember often seeing potable water systems MEL'ed due to a positive E. coli test.

Amike 03-23-2021 11:06 AM

Its funny and all to joke about airplane coffee but most of these anecdotes are just that.

The cleanliness of airplane potable water systems is regulated by the EPA under the Aircraft Drinking Water Rule. Delta conducts routine disinfection and flushing of its entire fleet at a frequency of at least four times per year (i.e., once every three month period or every 90 days). There is a manual for this viewable on Dnet.

beernutt 03-23-2021 11:30 AM

Facts aren’t as much fun as conjecture and hyperbole, though.

Grumpyaviator 03-23-2021 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 3210557)
I talked to a mechanic one time in ATL about the potable water tanks (this was on the 757, read 30 year old aircraft). He said if you could see the inside of one of those “seasoned” tanks, you’d never drink airplane coffee again. I’ll take my chances on a newer 321, or the 220, but I’ll pass on any plane with a few years under her belt.

what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.

im not worried about the coffee as much as the ice. on the RJ I once witnessed a ramper spreading the ice out in the drawer with his hands...while wearing the lav service gloves.

CBreezy 03-23-2021 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 3210623)
what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.

im not worried about the coffee as much as the ice. on the RJ I once witnessed a ramper spreading the ice out in the drawer with his hands...while wearing the lav service gloves.

Doesn't everyone just get sealed plastic bags of ice?

saturn 03-23-2021 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 3208959)
All kidding your dumbass aside, you're one of us, get the vax to stop this protein spike thing. There's a chance ur antibodies onboarded already won't target that next spike well enough and then theres a risk I cant buy you a beer on the overnight.

I'll take it first though. I promise, i go zombie, I'll let u shoot me first and you can tell me you told me so.

Those who've recovered DO recognize that spike thingy..

Recent studies confirm those who've recovered from COVID display robust immunity, lasting much longer than many expected. We still don't know the full duration, but outside of vary rare cases, it appears to last a year to years. Unfortunately it's not news policy makers want people grasping onto right now. You will probably hear this mainstream as more and more studies confirm this, and vaccine take rates hit a threshold. Those who've got COVID twice are extremely rare (tens of people amongst 100s of millions), and had very low viral loads. This is great news for those who've recovered, as well as for the vaccine, as memory B & T cells will hopefully also show similar promise. We've heard a lot about immunity lasting 3 months, but where'd that come from? That was from a study in May that showed declining antibodies beginning for a small subset at that time (yet ignored the big picture of overall immunity) . We're learning more & more. Just as severe vaccine reactions are very rare, so are cases of re-infection (and no known transmission after recovery). So maybe we should recognize those who've recovered from COVID, especially symptomatic COVID, the probability of being a threat to themselves or others is very remote today, and possibly for a long time yet. Let's take a breathe now.

Sources:

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19
(Note:this study shows immunity =>8 months, because study ended at 8 months. Memory B cells increased at 6 months, no decline. )

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.17.20233544v1.full
(This is a preliminary study. Same findings as before. Website is a medical research host website, very accredited with Yale/CSH labs).

https://theconversation.com/new-research-suggests-immunity-to-covid-is-better-than-we-first-thought-150645
( good conversation about natural immunity being at odds with public policy. Links to studies over time. But kinda old from November.)


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