Originally Posted by GucciBoy
(Post 3185338)
I’m confused as to how you think it is spreading.
1. Contact 2. Droplet 3. Airborne Currently the CDC is ONLY using 2, when it is obviously 1 and 3. |
Originally Posted by Crown
(Post 3185334)
1. Which clearly proves masking and lockdowns don't work. LA County has some of the strictest requirements and yet they can't control it. Proves that locking down and masking are useless.
2. Vehemently disagree. This became an issue when Queen Gretch in Michigan banned people from gardening or traveling to a cabin all while her husband used his privilege to flout the rules. We've seen it in California, Colorado, New York, and other Dem strongholds where Democratic politicians did exactly whatever they wanted, all while telling us peons we had to follow their rules or else we'd kill grandma. And don't tell me that people should be forgiven or that they make mistakes. These are politicians you (certainly not me) elected to make decisions that should serve the common good. They made bad decisions, and I demand you condemn them. 3. I could kill someone in my car as well. I could kill someone with a grocery cart. So that's a ridiculous stupid dangerous argument. We live in a society, and that carries risk, some of which yes does include getting sick from other individuals. You want to stay at home because of a phantom virus that does very little damage? Fine. But I'm not afraid of this. If you are, frankly, you're a wuss. you never addressed the whole point of my post. You are getting but hurt about an event that hasn’t happened....mandatory life long mask wearing forever 1. Never said they definitively work or not, above my pay grade. Seems obvious they would but meh, I don’t care and I’m not a scientist. I’ll let the folks who study this tell me what to do. I don’t look for socialist Marxist conspiracies under every bush 2. whataboutism? This **** gets old. Whataboutism is for children. Please stop. 3. I don’t want to stay at home, nor did I say anyone should lol. I just said to take this seriously and be aware of what you are doing. People have knowingly been sick, and said screw it, gone to work and killed other people. (And before you say it’s a choice to go to work for the people that got sick, 1. They may not know they have a genetic anomaly that gets them killed, or 2. They need to work for money.) I love how you assume who I voted for....this is the problem we are having. You are projecting that since I don’t agree with you, I am your enemy. chill da fun out bru, not everyone is after you......... my only real issue is when people start saying crazy stuff like phins blithely stating the CDC is falsifying their 2020 numbers. That is insane. Masks, no masks...who cares. I just do what I’m asked like a good FO until I see a safety issue and then I don’t give 2 chickens about the captains feelings I’ll call it like I see it. I don’t see a safety violation yet and I’m staying in my lane |
Originally Posted by Viking busdvr
(Post 3182704)
So if I get the vaccine I can get rid of the mask??? Yeah, didn’t think so... New Normal!!!
I wondered why they did away with mandatory PPE in the office and require it only if you’re symptomatic. He said that with antibodies lasting at least 90 days and the immune system activated for at least a year(some studies are leaning to permanent immunity according to his references), the recommendation now is not to wear the mask if you’ve been positive to keep the immune system working at its peak, unless of course its mandatory where you are. You should comply with local rules. He even said “hopefully you’ll be exposed again and that will help to fortify your immune system.” This was last week and he’s been keeping up to date on the latest. Of course he’s probably not as knowledgeable as pilots with google on an anonymous message board. I don’t remember all the technical talk since he’s on a number of advisory boards in our area and gets on a roll, but basically the immune system, once activated benefits from repeated exposure to what triggered it. |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 3185354)
The CDC has three protocols for disease transmission mitigation
1. Contact 2. Droplet 3. Airborne Currently the CDC is ONLY using 2, when it is obviously 1 and 3. Oh, I thought it was 1 and 3, hence all the Lysol and hand sanitizer. |
Originally Posted by LumberJack
(Post 3185264)
You might want to do a quick internet search before throwing out overly confident statements. We're over 90% right now... Nobody said masks would fix it, just that they help.
How could you possibly run a reliable study that would even give a ballpark number of actual, consistent, properly fitted/worn masks used nationwide? A statistical survey of self-reported usage would be almost useless, for obvious reasons. (Also see...asking people to report their weight on drivers licenses, how many sex partners women will cop to, how many sex partners men will say they've had, etc.) Maybe some kind of study could determine basic population density numbers compared with actual masks ordered, distributed, and constantly re-distributed/replenished to a specific region would at least be some sort of indicator? 90%? Nationwide? Across all population densities, income levels, education levels, ages, races, genders? No way. |
Originally Posted by Nvrgofullretard
(Post 3185363)
umm you are freaking out 😂
you never addressed the whole point of my post. You are getting but hurt about an event that hasn’t happened....mandatory life long mask wearing forever
Originally Posted by Nvrgofullretard
(Post 3185363)
1. Never said they definitively work or not, above my pay grade. Seems obvious they would but meh, I don’t care and I’m not a scientist. I’ll let the folks who study this tell me what to do. I don’t look for socialist Marxist conspiracies under every bush
Originally Posted by Nvrgofullretard
(Post 3185363)
2. whataboutism? This **** gets old. Whataboutism is for children. Please stop.
Originally Posted by Nvrgofullretard
(Post 3185363)
3. I don’t want to stay at home, nor did I say anyone should lol. I just said to take this seriously and be aware of what you are doing. People have knowingly been sick, and said screw it, gone to work and killed other people. (And before you say it’s a choice to go to work for the people that got sick, 1. They may not know they have a genetic anomaly that gets them killed, or 2. They need to work for money.)
Originally Posted by Nvrgofullretard
(Post 3185363)
I love how you assume who I voted for....this is the problem we are having. You are projecting that since I don’t agree with you, I am your enemy.
Originally Posted by Nvrgofullretard
(Post 3185363)
my only real issue is when people start saying crazy stuff like phins blithely stating the CDC is falsifying their 2020 numbers. That is insane. Masks, no masks...who cares. I just do what I’m asked like a good FO until I see a safety issue and then I don’t give 2 chickens about the captains feelings I’ll call it like I see it.
I don’t see a safety violation yet and I’m staying in my lane |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 3185101)
Yes, that's correct, the average person with Covid spreads the disease to 1.4 other people. Measles, a disease that spreads easily, is 12 other people.
By third generation, Covid spread is 1.4x1.4x1.4 = 2.7 infected if no mitigation. By third generation, Measles spread is 12x12x12 = 1,728 infected if no mitigation. I remember, as a kid, when I had measles, once they had a couple of cases, the entire school was closed down for a couple of weeks. Otherwise it went ripping through the rooms, fast as can be. If you have not seen it, you have no idea about the rapid spread of a factor of 12. It would simply take your breath away. Even so, the infection rate for kids was almost 100%. Everybody got it. |
Originally Posted by Nvrgofullretard
(Post 3185363)
my only real issue is when people start saying crazy stuff like phins blithely stating the CDC is falsifying their 2020 numbers. That is insane. Masks, no masks...who cares. I just do what I’m asked like a good FO until I see a safety issue and then I don’t give 2 chickens about the captains feelings I’ll call it like I see it. I don’t see a safety violation yet and I’m staying in my lane First, they did falsify. Starting with case numbers. WHO just validated my assertion which was made back in May. PCR cycles were too high leading to millions of false positives. So yeah, fake. Deaths. Well no pun intended, but we've beat the dead horse. A doctor can code any death - regardless of the cause - as china flu. Doesn't need a positive test, doesn't need anything other than "assumption". This has happened since March when the NVSS changed the rules. I've also asserted that HCQ and Ivermectin were proven treatments - my wife has used both to save people. Now that is validated as well. See the AMJM and Lancet retractions. My goal here since March was always to provide you guys with some inside info. Had it been a hot stock or investment you'd be high-fiving me. Instead I've been ridiculed and tormented by 4 trolls. I am trying to feed you info on this cold bug that you should look at - yet you can't see it due to your gross confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance. I've got news for you about me and politics - I'm not in love with any politician. Frankly I can't stand any of them. It is the second oldest profession. I do care about the truth. I will continue to be validated on my prior assertions, well, because they are truth. You'll soon learn the truth about the origins of the virus. I wrote extensively on that as well. Have a great weekend. Got some fish to catch. |
Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
(Post 3185368)
Everyone at my Drs office has had it, my family as well. He asked if I had the vaccine and said I should get it (probably won’t), but should wait until last so others without immunity could get the first opportunity.
I wondered why they did away with mandatory PPE in the office and require it only if you’re symptomatic. He said that with antibodies lasting at least 90 days and the immune system activated for at least a year(some studies are leaning to permanent immunity according to his references), the recommendation now is not to wear the mask if you’ve been positive to keep the immune system working at its peak, unless of course its mandatory where you are. You should comply with local rules. He even said “hopefully you’ll be exposed again and that will help to fortify your immune system.” This was last week and he’s been keeping up to date on the latest. Of course he’s probably not as knowledgeable as pilots with google on an anonymous message board. I don’t remember all the technical talk since he’s on a number of advisory boards in our area and gets on a roll, but basically the immune system, once activated benefits from repeated exposure to what triggered it. Our immune system is a wonderful and highly effective elegant design; it has kept us on this planet for millenia. It needs to be exercised. Challenged. This makes it, and us, stronger. The whole "asymptomatic" transfer thing was BS to scare you into putting on the face diaper and means of avenue to shutting your/our world down. Your doc is smart. Keep him/her. |
Originally Posted by Crown
(Post 3185334)
1. Which clearly proves masking and lockdowns don't work. LA County has some of the strictest requirements and yet they can't control it. Proves that locking down and masking are useless.
2. Vehemently disagree. This became an issue when Queen Gretch in Michigan banned people from gardening or traveling to a cabin all while her husband used his privilege to flout the rules. We've seen it in California, Colorado, New York, and other Dem strongholds where Democratic politicians did exactly whatever they wanted, all while telling us peons we had to follow their rules or else we'd kill grandma. And don't tell me that people should be forgiven or that they make mistakes. These are politicians you (certainly not me) elected to make decisions that should serve the common good. They made bad decisions, and I demand you condemn them. 3. I could kill someone in my car as well. I could kill someone with a grocery cart. So that's a ridiculous stupid dangerous argument. We live in a society, and that carries risk, some of which yes does include getting sick from other individuals. You want to stay at home because of a phantom virus that does very little damage? Fine. But I'm not afraid of this. If you are, frankly, you're a wuss. 2) politicians acting like hypocrites has literally NOTHING to do with wether Covid spreads, or wether water is wet, or where the sun sets and rises no matter what Tucker and Hannity say. That argument is overused and has ZERO barring on anything. 3) I didn’t realize grocery cart murders were contagious! I better watch it at the grocery store next time. you need some serious de-programming |
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