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Nantonaku 12-06-2020 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3167656)
I mentioned the paranoid and stupid response to both democratic and republican presidents in the comment you quoted. Maybe read my comment before a knee-jerk reaction at the “side” you think I’m on.

I've read enough of your posts to know you are deeply entrenched on one side.

OOfff 12-06-2020 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 3167670)
I've read enough of your posts to know you are deeply entrenched on one side.

So, you won’t even read the comments you respond to. Good to know.

DeltaboundRedux 12-06-2020 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by waldo135 (Post 3167605)
My hunch is the ‘people in power’ keep him there for 2 years and 1 day, hoping to then get 10 years of Harris.


Yes. No need to get conspiratorial about it though. (You didn’t)

It’s a rational national party move. President is largely a figurehead, but an important symbolic one. Better to have it than not have it.

Understanding the rules as we all do, it makes sense for POS (Party of Science) President Biden to hold out for 2 years. Indian-African American Special K would have tremendous advantages for election.

DeltaboundRedux 12-06-2020 06:40 PM

Huh. This Rolling Stones article says less than half the wymons are interested in the vaccine.

Not sure of the gender/chosen gender/gender assigned at birth makeup of the back of the aircraft, but it seems to skew mainly female/she/her.

Might be an issue if she/her won’t get vaccinated. Interweb assertions of vaccine = sterility probably don’t help. Declarations from the newly installed POS (Party of Science) insisting otherwise should help.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...ccine-1099020/

SaveFerris 12-06-2020 06:48 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/h...s-testing.html

Since we are talking about numbers, here is an excellent article about the worthlessness of these tests as they are currently conducted. 90% of those testing positive should not be positives and are of near zero threat to anybody.

TED74 12-07-2020 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by SaveFerris (Post 3167679)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/h...s-testing.html

Since we are talking about numbers, here is an excellent article about the worthlessness of these tests as they are currently conducted. 90% of those testing positive should not be positives and are of near zero threat to anybody.

It was a good article when it was published half an epidemic ago back in August. Luckily we've made some progress, as evidenced by the three rapid tests I've already taken on behalf of Delta in the last month before signing in. That wasn't possible this summer. From the article: "But researchers say the solution is not to test less, or to skip testing people without symptoms, as recently suggested by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Instead, new data underscore the need for more widespread use of rapid tests, even if they are less sensitive.

“The decision not to test asymptomatic people is just really backward,” said Dr. Michael Mina, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, referring to the C.D.C. recommendation."

KnotSoFast 12-07-2020 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Phins2right (Post 3167099)
My front line medical spouse (an MD) is not going to take it. Most of her peers and counterparts are not going to take it.

Apparently more are not going to either:
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/co...fety-concerns/

You should be concerned, if teh docs are balking at this crap, you should probably look at it again.

HCQ is a known cure. Simple, cheap, effective.

Sad they are trying to force vaccine that has at least a 2% negative to severe side effect for a bug with like .02% mortality rate. Clown world.

Best of luck to you all.

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Not sure where to start with your insistence that COVID is only .02% lethal. Math is clearly not your strong suit.

As of this morning, (07 DEC) 14,800,000 people in USA have tested positive for COVID

As of this morning, (07DEC) 282,000 deaths in USA have been attributed to COVID


282,000 divided by 14,800,000 equals 0.019. Which is TWO PERCENT, NOT .02%

Even correcting for the half of the population who have no symptoms, that still leaves a ONE PERCENT mortality rate

Further, if 14 million have already tested positive and half of COVID infectees show no symptoms, assume 28 million have actually had it. That is still less than 10 percent of the USA population. Extrapolating the 1% mortality to 10X more potential cases give a potential 2.8 Million additional deaths.

Oh, and my brother is also an M.D. He is insistent that everybody should get it. Not sure where your wife practices. Does she practice? Or is she a researcher? Just wondering why she would be against the vaccine if she was near potentially infected patients on a daily basis.

Also, if HCQ is a cure, don’t you think that there would be at least ONE hospital with a full ICU that would have tried it and “cured” everybody? And then talked about it? Or is EVERY HOSPITAL in the USA “in” on this conspiracy and ignoring HCQ while letting their patients needlessly die to further the conspiracy.

Oh, and as far as your cited source URL ? I am not impressed. There are many other websites that seem to think poorly of it.

The Free Thought Project fact check

More opinion on veracity of Free Thought Project

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Seneca Pilot 12-07-2020 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by KnotSoFast (Post 3167778)
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Not sure where to start with your insistence that COVID is only .02% lethal. Math is clearly not your strong suit.

As of this morning, (07 DEC) 14,800,000 people in USA have tested positive for COVID

As of this morning, (07DEC) 282,000 deaths in USA have been attributed to COVID


282,000 divided by 14,800,000 equals 0.019. Which is TWO PERCENT, NOT .02%

Even correcting for the half of the population who have no symptoms, that still leaves a ONE PERCENT mortality rate

Further, if 14 million have already tested positive and half of COVID infectees show no symptoms, assume 28 million have actually had it. That is still less than 10 percent of the USA population. Extrapolating the 1% mortality to 10X more potential cases give a potential 2.8 Million additional deaths.

Oh, and my brother is also an M.D. He is insistent that everybody should get it. Not sure where your wife practices. Does she practice? Or is she a researcher? Just wondering why she would be against the vaccine if she was near potentially infected patients on a daily basis.

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Your math works out for case fatality on confirmed positives but you are ignoring your later statement that twice as many people actually have had the virus so now we are down to one percent. Then we have to look at the total population of the US which is 331 million and that number works out to .85%. Not worth being a guinea pig for the first vaccine in my opinion. You may feel free to disagree.

KnotSoFast 12-07-2020 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3167782)
Your math works out for case fatality on confirmed positives but you are ignoring your later statement that twice as many people actually have had the virus so now we are down to one percent. Then we have to look at the total population of the US which is 331 million and that number works out to .85%. Not worth being a guinea pig for the first vaccine in my opinion. You may feel free to disagree.

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.85% ??? I am pretty good at math, but your answer eludes me. Please show your work.

Further, you can NOT count the entire population, 90% of whom have NOT YET BEEN INFECTED in your math. That makes no sense.

1% mortality rate among infected people. That is a small number, but “I” don’t want to roll the dice.

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Seneca Pilot 12-07-2020 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by KnotSoFast (Post 3167784)
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.85% ??? I am pretty good at math, but your answer eludes me. Please show your work.

Further, you can NOT count the entire population, 90% of whom have NOT YET BEEN INFECTED in your math. That makes no sense.

1% mortality rate among infected people. That is a small number, but “I” don’t want to roll the dice.

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The entire population is the pool of potential infected people and that is what you would have to base the total deaths on for overall fatality. You are computing case fatality but that number will be fluid with total case count. The population as a whole is fairly constant. Worldwide deaths vs. population the number is .02% but I don't think deaths are reported correctly everywhere. I would guess the actual total fatality rate is probably somewhere around half a percent but I don't think we will ever have a reliable number.

If you are fat, have heart disease, COPD, diabetes, or older than 75 you shouldn't roll the dice.


280,000 divided by 331,000,000 = 0.000845 0.085%


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