Yup, Crews (Captains and FOs) are empowered to do what THEY think is safe and efficient.

There is no hurry to do the WDR verification immediately after push back unless there is a legitimate safety concern(weather, unfamiliar airport, low time FO etc etc). It's dynamic.

However you made a static statement of not moving the airplane until WDR is verified because you rather not do it moving;

Are you not comfortable with your FO taxiing straight ahead at 10-15 kts?

If you get a WDR Delayed message after push back at one of our busy hubs will you sit on the ramp until the WDR comes?

With that said I shouldn't have used the word "seasoned" as this discussion is well into the realm of technique.



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In the case of no WDR, yes I set the default flap setting and press on. Yes I am comfortable having the FO taxi on straightaways. But if the WDR is right there in my hand when we push, I get the verification done then and there.

I always laugh at people that get worked up over things like this.

Plane in front of you starts moving 30 sec after you expected him to. By the time you say “what’s this guy doing?”, he starts moving again.

Odds are, you’ll forget about that 30 second “inconvenience” before you get to the terminal escalator. Use that :30 of extra block to grab a coffee at Starbucks instead of drinking the crap in the lounge.

Multiplied by thousands of flights with compounding time issues, 30 seconds blocking a gate/ramp adds up. There's a reason they measure it.

All this talk of Latency and dwell time is pretty amusing. Prior to upgrading I never ever saw a Captain who cared about this at all - in fact just the opposite, plenty who wanted to get on the clock ASAP. Four years in the left seat and have yet to come across a FO who cares about this. Let the company track it - who cares? Pilots do rush and there is often pressure put on us but you know what, 99.9% of it is self induced.

I seriously doubt anyone, let alone many, are worried about the repercussions of excess dwell time - I have seen plenty of Pilots over the years say "Put the delay on me," never ever saw a Pilot say "Don't blame me for _______________."

Any perceived pressure that DAL puts on is dwarfed by self applied pressure - included for some weird reason not being able to say "unable" to ATC.

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I have never received positive recognition for my minimal dwell time, but every time I have made a mistake, the debrief item is always, "Why did you feel the need to rush"

Exactly. They can measure it all they want. Not my (or the CA’s) problem.

If the CA wants to take an extra 30 sec in the interest of safety, he can and should if he feels the need to.

My point was, I’ve flown with guys who I think seeing someone do that would honestly ruin their day. It’s not a big deal. You don’t know what is going on in that other fight deck.

Spoken like true professional :rolleyes:

I guarantee your FO's notice, it's just not something worth mentioning.

The best pilots I fly with are good at CRM. Some review it after push, some do it whenever it makes sense. Both ways work, but the company prefers the second. There's a difference between rushing and finding another place to do the same thing.