Its forthcoming, it might have been mentioned in the 1st quarter distant learning.

Scoop

fleet bulletin is out and effective for my fleet already

My selective statistical analysis points towards longevity. I don’t know the other fleets‘ statistics, but the UNA and “Affected” have zero TOFU events and they’re staffed by the most junior pilots.

7ER is the final test fleet gets it a week early I believe

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Numbers on the AE I’m hearing are similar.

As far as flaps setting in the after start flow... that is us going to what both Boeing and Airbus recommend. Salute received, flaps x was just asking for distraction issues to interfere with flaps extension... and as such it has.

ER is already doing it, and in the next week we will all be doing it. Salute received, flaps x will still be called.... this is adding what should be a pretty solid layer of Swiss cheese to the pile.

Good. Its amazing how much little data Big Data can miss.

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Truth. ATL ramp 2 drives the world.

At my regional we could taxi with the flaps up if we were getting deiced. Flaps up deice was normal. Then set the flaps prior to takeoff. At the current leave of absence job, we set the flaps after we start taxiing. Nobody, to my knowledge, has ever tried to takeoff with the flaps up at either company. I do not understand all the angst with TOFU around here.

TOFU is a failure the same as T/O FU is a failure.

That said, I think simplicity is a very powerful way to avoid failures.

It's really strange. And the practice of just arbitrarily setting flaps 1 before you taxi if you haven't received the WDR yet just to avoid a FOQA event is dangerous. If you subsequently get the WDR and it's a flaps 10 take off, but you forget to adjust the flaps, you're not going to get a takeoff config warning (on 737) during take off and could ultimately takeoff with the wrong flap setting all because we're scared to taxi with the flaps up.