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180ToAJ 02-10-2021 03:46 PM

How to get payback days
 
I’ve read the contract 23.S.9-12 and I’m still not 100% sure of all the ways to get a PB day.
It looks like only reserve pilots:
-who fly a GS or IA over an X day.
-who is rerouted into or otherwise extended into an X day.
Or a regular pilot who flies a trip into a reserve month over an X day, right?
Are there any others?

Once you earn a PB day and scheduling drops it on your next long call day, will they allow you to pick it up and bank it? Or do you have to time it to win you don’t have any more on call days that month?

Iceberg 02-10-2021 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by 180ToAJ (Post 3193454)
I’ve read the contract 23.S.9-12 and I’m still not 100% sure of all the ways to get a PB day.
It looks like only reserve pilots:
-who fly a GS or IA over an X day.
-who is rerouted into or otherwise extended into an X day.
Or a regular pilot who flies a trip into a reserve month over an X day, right?
Are there any others?

Once you earn a PB day and scheduling drops it on your next long call day, will they allow you to pick it up and bank it? Or do you have to time it to win you don’t have any more on call days that month?

Youll only get the PB day if you don’t have anymore on call days left. Make sure they add the time after block-in before starting the PB day. That could bet you a PB in your bank because they can’t bank partial PBs.

Denny Crane 02-10-2021 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3193465)
Youll only get the PB day if you don’t have anymore on call days left. Make sure they add the time after block-in before starting the PB day. That could bet you a PB in your bank because they can’t bank partial PBs.

Anytime you fly a GS/IA etc on reserve you get a PB day/s. It’s is just added to your schedule on the next long call day/s.....it is still a PB day. As you said, one will only receive PB bank days if you will not have anymore on call days left in the month.

To the OP, only crew scheduling can put PB days in your PB day bank.

Denny

Iceberg 02-11-2021 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 3193556)
Anytime you fly a GS/IA etc on reserve you get a PB day/s. It’s is just added to your schedule on the next long call day/s.....it is still a PB day. As you said, one will only receive PB bank days if you will not have anymore on call days left in the month.

To the OP, only crew scheduling can put PB days in your PB day bank.

Denny

Thanks. Typed it out too fast and not clear enough.

Milk Man 02-11-2021 05:04 AM

So currently, if you get a PB day with days left of res. They will put them on a res day. If you have no days left, it will go into a PB day bank. I think it would be nice to have an option to put PB days in bank regardless if we have days left of res. That way you can build them up. Good idea? Yes or no?

Hossharris 02-11-2021 05:06 AM

I think it should default to going into the bank.

Iceberg 02-11-2021 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by Hossharris (Post 3193621)
I think it should default to going into the bank.

I agree, that would be fantastic.

crewdawg 02-11-2021 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by Milk Man (Post 3193619)
So currently, if you get a PB day with days left of res. They will put them on a res day. If you have no days left, it will go into a PB day bank. I think it would be nice to have an option to put PB days in bank regardless if we have days left of res. That way you can build them up. Good idea? Yes or no?

It's an outstanding idea, I'd love to have that option as well. It can be a double edged sword in categories that don't have coverage which can make them nearly useless, other than going to vacation the following year.

bugman61 02-11-2021 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3193625)
It's an outstanding idea, I'd love to have that option as well. It can be a double edged sword in categories that don't have coverage which can make them nearly useless, other than going to vacation the following year.


I’ve gone though entire years where I’ve never had the coverage to use a banked PB day, much less find a day with coverage that had a high time day trip to pick up/drop. Also what makes reserve GS so appealing to many is that you can get the premium pay and not end up working any extra because of the PB days. A pilot choice to roll or bank would be great.

Denny Crane 02-11-2021 06:16 AM

Being able to bank any PB day/s would be a great option. But, IMO, it would be a VERY a expensive option for the company and would be costly for pilots to negotiate.

Denny


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