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Denny Crane 05-01-2021 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 3229160)
Remember the ol' shortened layover 1:2?? THAT was a good deal. Cha-ching!

Why yes, yes I do remember! I’ve actually gone on 1:2 a couple times in the last year or so. Ahhh, don’t forget that it went to 1 for 1 3/4 during the night (forgot the time and too lazy to look it up) and stayed there till you went off duty!

Denny

Gspeed 05-01-2021 07:46 PM

How about Suit Up pay on reserve? The contract says you get pay and credit and yet DALPA and the company both say that it all only goes towards guarantee.

FL370esq 05-02-2021 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 3229228)
How about Suit Up pay on reserve? The contract says you get pay and credit and yet DALPA and the company both say that it all only goes towards guarantee.

Sounds right. ​​​​​​If you fly a trip on reserve you get pay and credit too...but it is deducted from your reserve guarantee.

Denny Crane 05-02-2021 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 3229228)
How about Suit Up pay on reserve? The contract says you get pay and credit and yet DALPA and the company both say that it all only goes towards guarantee.

i was talking regular line holder. If you look at your time card when on reserve you will see a line that says: Credit + Res Guarantee + Other Guarantee = Subtotal Credit. Suit up pay is given when you are assigned a trip but don’t actually fly it so it’s treated just like a trip on reserve and is subtracted from your reserve guarantee and put under the Credit column......same place the trip credit would have been if you had flown it. If the contract said you just got pay for it...then you would get it above guarantee. But, alas, it doesn’t say that.

In other words, you actually are getting pay and credit for any trip you fly on reserve. It’s just that your reserve guarantee is reduced a like amount. If you have a 75 hr reserve guarantee and fly trips worth 50 hrs, you will get paid for those trips the same as a regular line holder (including things like international override and per diem) and get 25 hrs of pay for reserve guarantee.

Denny

Stryder 05-02-2021 03:45 AM

Here is another green slip question. Is there really any reason to use the bank to get you to the trigger? For example in April i had 70 hours. Gs trigger is 71. I got a two day gs. In the top part of the time sheet it shows 10:30 pay for the trip. In the gs section it shows 9:30. If I take one hour from the bank to hit the trigger it brings the gs pay up to 1030 but now I owe 1 hour to the bank. Am I missing something? Just seems oweing the bank as I am getting longevity increases and when I upgrade will cost me more than just that 1 hour I borrowed.

tennisguru 05-02-2021 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by Stryder (Post 3229264)
Here is another green slip question. Is there really any reason to use the bank to get you to the trigger? For example in April i had 70 hours. Gs trigger is 71. I got a two day gs. In the top part of the time sheet it shows 10:30 pay for the trip. In the gs section it shows 9:30. If I take one hour from the bank to hit the trigger it brings the gs pay up to 1030 but now I owe 1 hour to the bank. Am I missing something? Just seems oweing the bank as I am getting longevity increases and when I upgrade will cost me more than just that 1 hour I borrowed.

That’s up to you to determine if 2 hours now is worth 1 hour from the future...

SparkySmith 05-02-2021 03:53 AM

You get paid for that bank hour twice. Your total pay goes up by two hours but you owe the bank just one hour. You get paid “pay and credit” for that bank hour, then your greenslip pay goes up one hour. In effect it is a free hour of pay: paid for two hours, owe one hour. That’s the reason to use your bank to get to the trigger.


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galaxy flyer 05-02-2021 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 3229150)
Thanks! I thought seriously about signing up to be one when the program started but they were looking for younger FO’s that had been here a few years ......... not some old, jaded WB captain! :) So I never pursued it.

Denny


Much more likely, they didn’t want somebody that actually knew something and history behind it mentoring new hires. Very dangerous ideas.

Falcon20 05-02-2021 04:38 AM

IA pay on reserve?
 
So if you are on reserve and get an IA that over laps an on call day how does it pay?

For example it’s a 2 day trip. Day 1 is an X day and day 2 is the first day of long call. Does the whole trip pay above guarantee? Do you get PB days as well?

Gspeed 05-02-2021 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 3229252)
i was talking regular line holder. If you look at your time card when on reserve you will see a line that says: Credit + Res Guarantee + Other Guarantee = Subtotal Credit. Suit up pay is given when you are assigned a trip but don’t actually fly it so it’s treated just like a trip on reserve and is subtracted from your reserve guarantee and put under the Credit column......same place the trip credit would have been if you had flown it. If the contract said you just got pay for it...then you would get it above guarantee. But, alas, it doesn’t say that.

In other words, you actually are getting pay and credit for any trip you fly on reserve. It’s just that your reserve guarantee is reduced a like amount. If you have a 75 hr reserve guarantee and fly trips worth 50 hrs, you will get paid for those trips the same as a regular line holder (including things like international override and per diem) and get 25 hrs of pay for reserve guarantee.

Denny

Understood. I guess my point was that "pay and no credit" for a greenslip pays a reserve better than an item that has "pay and credit". It just seems like a weird way to use the terminology in the contract.


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