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172skychicken 09-20-2021 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3297839)
while that would be fantastic if true, based on what I’ve seen so far I’m gonna have to file that under “I’ll believe it when I see it”.

including September we have only hired a little over 200 in the past 4 months. Assuming he is including all 2021 hires in that calculation, we would have to hire ~1600 more pilots in 9 or so months. I genuinely don’t think our pipeline can do that
They claimed they've hired around 300 this year. Even still, assuming 200 a month for January through June and the 200ish they've already hired, that would mean they'd have to get about 400 in class over the last 3 months of 2021 or a little over 130 per month. We've got some new sims coming and they are aggressively hiring SLIs and LCP/LVPs. Not to mention that they've looking everywhere for available sim time as well. I wouldn't bet my house on it either, but it might be possible. I think 1500 is believable.

Gone Flying 09-20-2021 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 172skychicken (Post 3297841)
They claimed they've hired around 300 this year. Even still, assuming 200 a month for January through June and the 200ish they've already hired, that would mean they'd have to get about 400 in class over the last 3 months of 2021 or a little over 130 per month. We've got some new sims coming and they are aggressively hiring SLIs and LCP/LVPs. Not to mention that they've looking everywhere for available sim time as well. I wouldn't bet my house on it either, but it might be possible. I think 1500 is believable.
widgetsenority shows 149 pilots hired in June/July/August with another 71 hired in September based on adding up the class drops; so 220 total by that math. I think if we have another 1,000 above that by the end of June that would be great. If we can get another 1580 as they claim I’d be more than a little surprised TBH. Lots of variables like you said, I just think it’s possible but not probable. I’d love to be wrong

Machsp 09-20-2021 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 3297824)
Delta is purposefully missing their goals because they don't know what the rebound on flying will look like if vaccinated idiots just hide in their homes because they might get the sniffles.

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Uh oh, you must be a joy to fly with.

gloopy 09-20-2021 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 172skychicken (Post 3297831)
...they plan on hiring 1800 pilots by the middle of next year. 200 per month in the peak months.
Is that realistic though?

theUpsideDown 09-20-2021 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Machsp (Post 3297886)
Uh oh, you must be a joy to fly with.
Boy! You really made me reconsider my post.

TransWorld 09-20-2021 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3297839)
while that would be fantastic if true, based on what I’ve seen so far I’m gonna have to file that under “I’ll believe it when I see it”.

including September we have only hired a little over 200 in the past 4 months. Assuming he is including all 2021 hires in that calculation, we would have to hire ~1600 more pilots in 9 or so months. I genuinely don’t think our pipeline can do that
No airline has hired more than 12xx in a 12 month period. Not saying impossible, but unless you increase instructors, simulators, and check pilots; ain’t happening.

FL370esq 09-21-2021 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3297995)
No airline has hired more than 12xx in a 12 month period. Not saying impossible, but unless you increase instructors, simulators, and check pilots; ain’t happening.
The NB fleets can't cover the current training requirements without SLIs picking up an egregious amount of extra events...and, even then, events are getting cancelled. Things are going to get "interesting" in the next 6-8 months.

StickPig 09-21-2021 03:37 PM
Any August CJO’s still waiting for a class date?

TorqueWrench 09-21-2021 03:38 PM
How far out from CJO to sitting in Indoc?

StickPig 09-21-2021 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TorqueWrench (Post 3298322)
How far out from CJO to sitting in Indoc?
Thats what I’m trying to figure out. Seems like it varies based on background check/PRIA, but I’m 8/24 CJO and haven’t heard anything at all…


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