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SawF16 06-24-2021 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 3254241)
If that were true, how could anyone be awarded a green slip with less than 10 hours notice?

Reserves on/going into on call days can’t

tunes 06-25-2021 04:30 AM

Res and Green slips
 

Originally Posted by 1900 Hundo (Post 3254215)
actually it doesn’t make sense because I was not legal when they started at 1230 am for a 1000 am report, only 930 rest if I would have been the first called. So there lies the confusion on that statement from scheduling.


First call might have gone out then but trip coverage was run before that. Would have to actually look at it to know more


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tunes 06-25-2021 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 3254241)
If that were true, how could anyone be awarded a green slip with less than 10 hours notice?


Because a REG pilot can self certify rest. A RES only can if on call between 10-12 hours to report. A RES can obviously self certify rest on X days too.


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bugman61 06-25-2021 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 3254446)
Because a REG pilot can self certify rest. A RES only can if on call between 10-12 hours to report. A RES can obviously self certify rest on X days too.


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He was assigned rest from 2300-1100, so he would have 11 hours of rest prior to a 1000 report. Why wouldn’t that count? He’s not on call when he gets the assignment.

iaflyer 06-25-2021 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by bugman61 (Post 3254451)
He was assigned rest from 2300-1100, so he would have 11 hours of rest prior to a 1000 report. Why wouldn’t that count? He’s not on call when he gets the assignment.

He was called at 0300 for a 1000 report, he didn't have 10 hours rest. He was on LC until 2300, so that's not rest. His rest started at 2300 until 0300, when they called him - interrupting rest. So that's only 4 hours. Then it was only 7 hours until show - not 10 hours of rest anywhere in there.

Reserves can only get a GS from between 10-12 hours before report time. Less than 10 hours, they don't have the rest (because LC isn't rest) and more than 12 hours it would just go to them as a LC trip.

bugman61 06-25-2021 05:13 AM

Res and Green slips
 

Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 3254468)
He was called at 0300 for a 1000 report, he didn't have 10 hours rest. He was on LC until 2300, so that's not rest. His rest started at 2300 until 0300, when they called him - interrupting rest. So that's only 4 hours. Then it was only 7 hours until show - not 10 hours of rest anywhere in there.

Reserves can only get a GS from between 10-12 hours before report time. Less than 10 hours, they don't have the rest (because LC isn't rest) and more than 12 hours it would just go to them as a LC trip.


Icrew should show rest from 2300 to 1100. The call from ARCOS doesn’t put him back on call. It’s the same scenario as getting a GS when you are in the last few hours of an assigned 30 hour rest period.

The 10-12 hour rule applies when someone is actually on LC so that they can be released for 10 hours prior to report. He doesn’t need to be released to rest because he already was.

There’s nothing here that appears to violate the regs, he would have 11 hours of prospective, uninterrupted rest at the 1000 report time.

Falcon20 06-25-2021 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 3254239)
Since this is a Greenslip thread……here is a question. When you use the form on DN to request to use fewer PB days, how long does it take company to restore the days to your PB Day bank? Thx

Denny

I called scheduling yesterday because it is taking a long time compared to the month before. He said that it could be done later this week as they get to them when they have time. Based on the number of premium pay trips I doubt there is much time.

DELTAFO 06-26-2021 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 3254446)
Because a REG pilot can self certify rest. A RES only can if on call between 10-12 hours to report. A RES can obviously self certify rest on X days too.


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But he wasn't on call. He was on rest. The green slip report time would have given him 10 hours rest.

Denny Crane 06-26-2021 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 3254890)
But he wasn't on call. He was on rest. The green slip report time would have given him 10 hours rest.

But wouldn’t the original ARCOS call have interrupted his rest?

Denny

Scoop 06-26-2021 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 3254902)
But wouldn’t the original ARCOS call have interrupted his rest?

Denny

I am not sure but don't think ARCOs interrupts rest - if it did certain categories would stop flying all-together. :D

Scoop


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