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Originally Posted by Eldee5
(Post 3268598)
I can't get the internet to work half the time in the plane, and when it does, it doesn't stay on. I think we're ok with the single pilot/no pilot thing for a while...
This^^^^^^^ Had a discussion on the jumpseat today. The rollout, implementation and execution of domestic CPDLC has been years in the making and it’s still got a ways to go. Turns out pushing reroutes and frequency changes to airliners is fairly complicated. CPDLC runs about 100K per airframe. If something as relatively simple as uplinking reroutes and freq changes is this cumbersome how in the world does anyone think we are only a decade or so away from thousands of airliners whizzing around the country autonomously day in and day out without a hitch….. |
Originally Posted by CoefficientX
(Post 3268601)
This^^^^^^^
Had a discussion on the jumpseat today. The rollout, implementation and execution of domestic CPDLC has been years in the making and it’s still got a ways to go. Turns out pushing reroutes and frequency changes to airliners is fairly complicated. CPDLC runs about 100K per airframe. If something as relatively simple as uplinking reroutes and freq changes is this cumbersome how in the world does anyone think we are only a decade or so away from thousands of airliners whizzing around the country autonomously day in and day out without a hitch….. |
Originally Posted by Eldee5
(Post 3268598)
I can't get the internet to work half the time in the plane, and when it does, it doesn't stay on. I think we're ok with the single pilot/no pilot thing for a while...
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Originally Posted by Eldee5
(Post 3268598)
I can't get the internet to work half the time in the plane, and when it does, it doesn't stay on. I think we're ok with the single pilot/no pilot thing for a while...
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Pilotless pax jets aren’t the near rocks we need to worry about. Taking 4- and 3-man crews down to 2 will be a massive blow (the bad kind) to this profession. The second human in a cockpit on a crossing needn’t necessarily be a highly-trained and well-compensated professional pilot. I think we should fear that position’s requisite qualifications (and compensation) becoming more in line with IFS.
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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 3268637)
Not just that, none of these planes can autoland in significant amounts of wind. No jetliner has a auto takeoff either. When airliners start doing that, then I consider THINKING about bout being worried.
Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk And then you have to ICAO regulate this to the lowest denominator (I am looking at you Kinshasa and Yangon FIRs). It'll be a while. It may happen, but it'll be a while. |
Originally Posted by Eldee5
(Post 3268642)
Until all sub systems (ATC, dispatch, the plane, etc.) adopt AI driven collaborative decision making processes, capable of simulating holistic and naturalistic human decision making paradigms, it will not happen on a widespread scale. Sure a plane can fly from A to B undisturbed in a very controlled experiment environment. But without AI, and this is only my opinion, it's all moot. Think about your last flight and imagine synthesizing and somehow coding all the decisions that were made (Below/Above wing, dispatch, your crew, etc).
And then you have to ICAO regulate this to the lowest denominator (I am looking at you Kinshasa and Yangon FIRs). It'll be a while. It may happen, but it'll be a while. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 3268637)
Not just that, none of these planes can autoland in significant amounts of wind. No jetliner has a auto takeoff either. When airliners start doing that, then I consider THINKING about bout being worried.
Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2020/01/airbus-demonstrates-first-fully-automatic-visionbased-takeoff.html |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 3268637)
Not just that, none of these planes can autoland in significant amounts of wind. No jetliner has a auto takeoff either. When airliners start doing that, then I consider THINKING about bout being worried.
Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/pres...d-takeoff.html edit: looks like tipofthe beat me to it |
Originally Posted by tipofthe
(Post 3268646)
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