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01-16-2022, 09:00 AM

#581

gloopy

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Originally Posted by Vsop

Now you’re talking. Although, I think the ARJ21 would fill in for the 717 and curry favor with the Chinese government. After all we do need to make our China Eastern investment payoff. What could go wrong with a plane designed my Douglas in the 60’s, improved by Boeing in the 90’s and finally perfected by the Chinese in the 10’s

Comacs could be the gateway to a huge widebody (partnership) growth stratedgy! We buy Comac RJ's which helps us help them to buy 787's they can fly dozens of flights a day between every China hub to every US hub and we will have 1 or 2 flights a day proected!

01-17-2022, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gone Flying

the 221 has almost the exact same layout as a 717
12/15/82 (221) vs 12/20/78 (717)

the 220-300 only has 12 more c+ seats than a 319 or 320 and 6 less than a 738

the 223 is a similar size as a 319, not a 320.
max seating capacity for each
220- 160
319-156
320-186

Your Airbus numbers might be Frontier or Spirit seating capacity. Our (Delta) A319’s have 132 seats. Our A320’s have 162 (I think) and our A321’s have 192 seats.

01-17-2022, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Big E 757

Your Airbus numbers might be Frontier or Spirit seating capacity. Our (Delta) A319’s have 132 seats. Our A320’s have 162 (I think) and our A321’s have 192 seats.

Yes, for DAL, 319 = 132 seats, 320 = 157, and 321 = 191.

Our 221s have 109 and our 223s have 130.

01-18-2022, 08:11 PM

#584

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Originally Posted by Big E 757

Your Airbus numbers might be Frontier or Spirit seating capacity. Our (Delta) A319’s have 132 seats. Our A320’s have 162 (I think) and our A321’s have 192 seats.

I should have specified I was using FAA max numbers, I was trying to say that the 223 is closer to a 319, not a 320. i was posting the max seating allowed for each type in response to someone saying the 223 and 320 would have similar seating capacity if they were configured with a similar ratio of j/c+/c seats.

01-19-2022, 04:37 PM

#585

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Is SLC a fairly large 737 base? How senior/junior is it? Good trips?

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01-19-2022, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by S4User

Good trips?

Any info on the quality of trips is meaningless. By the time you wait for an AE, get trained, and get converted, those "good trips" will move to another aircraft/base. Think of the un-commutable JFK-LAX trips that appeared on the 767-400 or the domestic 330 trips. Chasing good trips is like planning for greenslips.

01-22-2022, 07:51 AM

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Is SLC a fairly large 737 base? How senior/junior is it? Good trips?

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Not incredibly large, about 130 or so in each seat. Top FO is sub 1400 and the top CA is double digits. Bottom CA is in the 8000s.

Trips - SUCK. Of course, they suck everywhere unless you follow the super secret formula from 4th Qtr QCQ and be senior but even then they aren't "good".

01-24-2022, 05:23 AM

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So, what are the current rumors from the 4th floor? When will we see this amazingly huge WB AE?

01-24-2022, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotWombat

So, what are the current rumors from the 4th floor? When will we see this amazingly huge WB AE?

You may not believe this, but they’re re-working it.

You see they had a huge AE planned for January and then Omicron happened, they saw a near-term drop in bookings and a softening of future books particularly TPAC and TATL, so they began to readjust, shrink and delay the bid. However…

The Omicron wave is beginning it’s quick drop, future bookings are increasing quickly and while TPAC is still trash due to political issues mainly with China, TATL bookings are beginning to accelerate so network is reworking demand which has increased demand on crew resources so they need to rework the bid, but now they’re behind the lead time that was needed to be started on.

In other words, SNAFU.