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GoCats67 12-17-2021 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3337317)
I got to see it from the JS why they were getting served a meal from DEN to MCO. And it was going to be their second meal of the day.

and here is a screen shot of our meal choices. Now remember, at the end of the day this is still airline food which has been the life blood for comedians since just after Orville and Wilbur. So I am not saying this should be the top of the list of things you need to "fix" in your contract, just trying to give a data point so you know where we all stand on what is the industry norm ... or industry lead... or industry lag...

As has been discussed I think UA is in the "lag" part when it comes to reserve rules. Which is obviously just a little more important than crew meals.

beernutt 12-17-2021 11:17 AM

If I’m not mistaken UAL gave up min crew day pay during their BK but kept their crew meals. We gave up crew meals during BK but kept min crew day pay. I’m not saying it was one-for-one but it was definitely part of the package.

I remember the crew meals we had, and how everyone complained about them. Rightfully so. Think of the sandwiches we get from the fridge in the pilot lounges, only much worse.

If we’re shooting for crew meals in C19 (20,21,22…) I hope they’re pretty far down on the list of asks.

EDIT: and for the perpetually angry, no - this doesn’t mean a ‘what are you willing to give up for that’ opportunity

Tacos 12-17-2021 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3337309)
Ask and you shall receive! By 2022 we could code iCrew to give you a selection under Personnel…Preferences…Dead Head…choose Reserve/Line…Show Schedule…click your rotation…choose which leg…choose duty position…enter your record locator…click on a picture of the bus to confirm you are not a robot…select Y or N and then CONFIRM each selection for Biscoff and Cheezits.

Funniest thing I’ve read on this forum in a while. Bravo.

gzsg 12-17-2021 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3337155)
I also wonder what they would look like with monthly vacancy awards with 90 day conversion windows. FC deadheads or 150% pay for middle seat DH. And crew meal policy that actually works? When was the last time you flew 3 legs with 50 min turns and plane swaps at each turn and staring at 50 people ahead of you in line at McDonald’s?

Yes, their reserve system is terrible. But they literally kill us in almost every other QoL aspect. Oh, they get actual nice cars for their trans to/from hotel. Like town cars and Yukon’s. Skyhop is great! What day does the 4th floor get to go hone for the holidays this year?

Don't confuse Sailing with the facts. He probably thinks we have the best vacation. Delusional.

gzsg 12-17-2021 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3337359)
If I’m not mistaken UAL gave up min crew day pay during their BK but kept their crew meals. We gave up crew meals during BK but kept min crew day pay. I’m not saying it was one-for-one but it was definitely part of the package.

I remember the crew meals we had, and how everyone complained about them. Rightfully so. Think of the sandwiches we get from the fridge in the pilot lounges, only much worse.

If we’re shooting for crew meals in C19 (20,21,22…) I hope they’re pretty far down on the list of asks.

EDIT: and for the perpetually angry, no - this doesn’t mean a ‘what are you willing to give up for that’ opportunity

We don’t have a min day.

tennisguru 12-17-2021 01:37 PM

It’s simple - delay the flight until you’ve had a chance to eat. I did that twice last month and never heard a peep about it.

beernutt 12-17-2021 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 3337418)
We don’t have a min day.

So we get 0 credit on a 24+ hour layover? So if we fly 2:30 during a two day trip we get paid 2:30?

I know I took the wind out of your sails with the preemptive ‘what are you willing to give up for that’ disclaimer but you’re arguing semantics.
We have an ADG with min day protections built in. We don’t have crew meals. I know which one I would choose during bankruptcy.

crazyjaydawg 12-17-2021 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3337333)
Which PF key would that require?


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OOfff 12-17-2021 02:24 PM

Crew meals would be nice, but having eaten many, many of them, they’re very far down the list of things I want.

Der Meister 12-17-2021 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3337476)
So we get 0 credit on a 24+ hour layover? So if we fly 2:30 during a two day trip we get paid 2:30?

I know I took the wind out of your sails with the preemptive ‘what are you willing to give up for that’ disclaimer but you’re arguing semantics.
We have an ADG with min day protections built in. We don’t have crew meals. I know which one I would choose during bankruptcy.

I hate to burst your bubble but we dont have a min day, just an ADG (and duty credit), layovers pay zip, nada, zero credit. Ask me how I know? I fly trips all the time with a 28hr layover with 20:58 block, they pay 21hrs... I hate being used and abused just so they don't have to pay me for the long layover. 😒


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