Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Delta (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/)
-   -   Designed rest (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/136032-designed-rest.html)

TED74 12-18-2021 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by J Fish (Post 3337957)
Point taken about MiCrew vs iCrew but that isn’t the issue here. The rest was placed after block in and without any notification. Rest must be prospective in nature.

1. Is a proper schedule check without any sort of CNO legal for rest notification?

2. Can this schedule check happen anytime after block in or does one have to wait until 30 minutes after?

3. Is there a way to see a time stamp of when rest was placed on one’s schedule?

Can’t answer all your questions, but for #1, yes, they assume you are complying with your obligation to check your schedule after your last leg blocks in, using icrew. That is your notification.

iCrew also contains rest information beyond the R on your schedule but it isn’t obvious. I honestly don’t even remember how to find it, but there is expanded data on when those rest periods begin and end…not sure if it shows when the rest was added to your schedule.

Redbird611 12-18-2021 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3337964)
iCrew also contains rest information beyond the R on your schedule but it isn’t obvious. I honestly don’t even remember how to find it, but there is expanded data on when those rest periods begin and end…not sure if it shows when the rest was added to your schedule.

Schedules > Schedule-Month > (Select, OK) > Display Reserve Rest Info

DWC CAP10 USAF 12-18-2021 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by J Fish (Post 3337957)
Point taken about MiCrew vs iCrew but that isn’t the issue here. The rest was placed after block in and without any notification. Rest must be prospective in nature.

1. Is a proper schedule check without any sort of CNO legal for rest notification?

2. Can this schedule check happen anytime after block in or does one have to wait until 30 minutes after?

3. Is there a way to see a time stamp of when rest was placed on one’s schedule?


1. PWA 23.S.3.f (RES pilot) state "who is assigned rest prior to release from a rotation, must acknowledge such assignment prior to release."

So yeah, they don't need to CNO you because you are required to check your schedule after block in but before release from a RES rotation, at which point you have self notified yourself.


2. PWA 23.1.d states "be required to check his schedule via DBMS or VRU after block-in of the last flight segment of his rotation prior to his release"

3. We can't see it with our user level permissions, but schedulers and ALPA Sched committee folks can see the exact minute something was placed on your schedule.

J Fish 12-18-2021 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF;[url=tel:3337970
3337970[/url]]1. PWA 23.S.3.f (RES pilot) state "who is assigned rest prior to release from a rotation, must acknowledge such assignment prior to release."

So yeah, they don't need to CNO you because you are required to check your schedule after block in but before release from a RES rotation, at which point you have self notified yourself.


2. PWA 23.1.d states "be required to check his schedule via DBMS or VRU after block-in of the last flight segment of his rotation prior to his release"

3. We can't see it with our user level permissions, but schedulers and ALPA Sched committee folks can see the exact minute something was placed on your schedule.

Thank you!

TED74 12-18-2021 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Redbird611 (Post 3337967)
Schedules > Schedule-Month > (Select, OK) > Display Reserve Rest Info

Thanks!

filler

FL370esq 12-18-2021 08:30 PM

Pretty sure any planned/prospective rest needs to generate a pop-up.requiring acknowledgement. You aren't required to go digging into iCrew to find that prospective rest has been assigned.

DWC CAP10 USAF 12-19-2021 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 3338294)
Pretty sure any planned/prospective rest needs to generate a pop-up.requiring acknowledgement. You aren't required to go digging into iCrew to find that prospective rest has been assigned.

Check out my reply at post #13.

He doesn’t have to dig, he just has to check his schedule after block in before release….if assigned rest, it will be there.

FL370esq 12-19-2021 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3338328)
Check out my reply at post #13.

He doesn’t have to dig, he just has to check his schedule after block in before release….if assigned rest, it will be there.

And that is my point. If you are assigned rest, you will have an iCrew pop-up that tells you.

The bigger issue has been when the Company puts rest on your schedule but doesn't notify you by phone and it occurs after you are required to check your schedule. Can't just slip it on the sked and not tell the pilot.

vyperdriver 12-19-2021 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 3338345)
And that is my point. If you are assigned rest, you will have an iCrew pop-up that tells you.

The bigger issue has been when the Company puts rest on your schedule but doesn't notify you by phone and it occurs after you are required to check your schedule. Can't just slip it on the sked and not tell the pilot.

this is exactly what happened to me this past summer. When i was tasked, i told them i didn't have adequate rest, was unfit for duty, and i was paid no problem after it was looked at. Note i was on duty for 9 days straight.

DWC CAP10 USAF 12-19-2021 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 3338345)

The bigger issue has been when the Company puts rest on your schedule but doesn't notify you by phone and it occurs after you are required to check your schedule. Can't just slip it on the sked and not tell the pilot.

I LOVE when that happens....telling the scheduler that I won't be flying the rotation or sitting the SC because I didn't receive proper notification or rest gives me a special feeling in the cockles of my heart...maybe below the cockles...maybe in the sub cockle area.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:19 AM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands