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J Fish 12-17-2021 06:51 PM

Designed rest
 
I returned from a two day reserve assignment today and checked my schedule in MiCrew at the gate. It still showed LC for the rest of the day. Tomorrow (18th) is a day off (IVD) followed by 4 days on call. At some point today, I was placed into designated rest upon the completion of my rotation but I didn’t get a notification of any kind. They obviously want to ensure my 30 hour clock is reset. My question is whether this rest is legal (towards my 30 hours) since I wasn’t notified about it.

Bait 12-17-2021 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by J Fish (Post 3337673)
I returned from a two day reserve assignment today and checked my schedule in MiCrew at the gate. It still showed LC for the rest of the day. Tomorrow (18th) is a day off (IVD) followed by 4 days on call. At some point today, I was placed into designated rest upon the completion of my rotation but I didn’t get a notification of any kind. They obviously want to ensure my 30 hour clock is reset. My question is whether this rest is legal (towards my 30 hours) since I wasn’t notified about it.

myCrew is not official for the schedule check. Has to be iCrew or call the VRU. You have to enable MyCrew to show rest periods in the settings. It’s possible it was there for your required schedule check but you wouldn’t see it in MyCrew if it isn’t enabled.

GogglesPisano 12-17-2021 07:46 PM

MiCrew is rumor.
iCrew is fact.

vyperdriver 12-17-2021 10:06 PM

Is putting someone at test at 0300 for example and not calling in the affirmative legal? I.e. suppose you don't check I crew until 3 pm for your next day schedule only to find that they placed you in rest while you were sleeping. In otherwords does there need to be positive contact made or simply passive assignment?

LumberJack 12-17-2021 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 3337735)
Is putting someone at test at 0300 for example and not calling in the affirmative legal? I.e. suppose you don't check I crew until 3 pm for your next day schedule only to find that they placed you in rest while you were sleeping. In otherwords does there need to be positive contact made or simply passive assignment?

No they can't surprise you with rest. Under 117 you need to know when, where, and how long your rest is BEFORE it starts. That's why your 10 hour clock doesn't start on an overnight if you arrive and it still shows "will call". In that case your 10 hours would start when they assign the hotel (or you book your own).

sailingfun 12-18-2021 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 3337735)
Is putting someone at test at 0300 for example and not calling in the affirmative legal? I.e. suppose you don't check I crew until 3 pm for your next day schedule only to find that they placed you in rest while you were sleeping. In otherwords does there need to be positive contact made or simply passive assignment?

You must be notified. If you had a required schedule check that would probably be notification. Simply posting it hoping you see it is not allowed.

tennisguru 12-18-2021 04:08 AM

I thought that going into a hard day off (IVD, APD, etc) you were automatically put into rest at noon. Since it's contractual and a known rest situation they don't ever notify you. Last month on reserve I would always get a CNO notification on my last on call day before a regular X day, but before a golden day I never got a notification even though rest was still put on there.

FL370esq 12-18-2021 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3337751)
You must be notified. If you had a required schedule check that is notification. Simply posting it hoping you see it is not allowed.

Fixed it for you. Other than a required check, the Company must call you. You do not have to answer but the Company must attempt a contact. Merely placing rest on your schedule does not satisfy 117.

DWC CAP10 USAF 12-18-2021 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by J Fish (Post 3337673)
I returned from a two day reserve assignment today and checked my schedule in MiCrew at the gate. It still showed LC for the rest of the day. Tomorrow (18th) is a day off (IVD) followed by 4 days on call. At some point today, I was placed into designated rest upon the completion of my rotation but I didn’t get a notification of any kind. They obviously want to ensure my 30 hour clock is reset. My question is whether this rest is legal (towards my 30 hours) since I wasn’t notified about it.


Originally Posted by Bait (Post 3337688)
myCrew is not official for the schedule check. Has to be iCrew or call the VRU. You have to enable MyCrew to show rest periods in the settings. It’s possible it was there for your required schedule check but you wouldn’t see it in MyCrew if it isn’t enabled.

Bait is 100% correct!

J Fish 12-18-2021 09:47 AM

Point taken about MiCrew vs iCrew but that isn’t the issue here. The rest was placed after block in and without any notification. Rest must be prospective in nature.

1. Is a proper schedule check without any sort of CNO legal for rest notification?

2. Can this schedule check happen anytime after block in or does one have to wait until 30 minutes after?

3. Is there a way to see a time stamp of when rest was placed on one’s schedule?


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