Contract 2022
01-20-2022 | 11:09 AM
#481
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From: 3+ hour sit in the ATL
go enjoy your grandkids.
As to the other...........
I'm calling BS on his 4 hours a month. The guys I know who play that game spend their transcon time and layover tweaking the iCrew.
I don't believe him. Simple as that.
01-20-2022 | 11:13 AM
#482
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2018
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Why? Because if everybody doesn't think like you then they MUST be wrong? Yes , you make that apparent on almost every single post you make.
Now, can you insult me as per your modus operandi? You will complete me if you do . Thank you in advance
Now, can you insult me as per your modus operandi? You will complete me if you do . Thank you in advance
01-20-2022 | 11:14 AM
#483
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Joined: Apr 2018
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Hey Drum.....BUCK YOU
edit:You beat me to the insult (as I knew you would) while I was typing
01-20-2022 | 11:23 AM
#484
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From: 3+ hour sit in the ATL
Go away. You have nothing of value to add here.
I'd love to banter with you, but I have to leave for the airport and commute up for a trip. That starts tomorrow morning with a 0555 sign in. Because majority of our trips in NY are uncommutable on both ends, that's how the kompany builds them. Even in the top are suffering from this.
BUCK YOU right back at ya.
I'd love to banter with you, but I have to leave for the airport and commute up for a trip. That starts tomorrow morning with a 0555 sign in. Because majority of our trips in NY are uncommutable on both ends, that's how the kompany builds them. Even in the top are suffering from this.
BUCK YOU right back at ya.
01-20-2022 | 11:36 AM
#485
Line Holder
Joined: Sep 2014
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WOW
I think you totally miss what we are talking about.
This thread is about contract 2022.
The fact you spend most of your post doing precisely what you said in the first sentence you were not going to do says a lot.
I don't have hours every day to sit around and hawk iCrew looking at open time and the swap board. That's great you've made it a cottage industry in your life. Most of us don't.
Guess what, I can get weekedns off anytime I want via PBS, senior enough to do that all day long. Same for most holiday's (all or nothing type games). I've tried the swap.drop etc thing but whe you don't have enough folks that doesn't work. Besides most would rather hang for the GS. It's very convienient you are yet another one of us that seems to have trips others are willing to pick up on the swap board. Or you are staffed in your BES you can actually drop. Or maybe you bid reserve and fill it up, yes,we are all aware of strategies.
Our point here is that it should not take massive machinations, and a lot of luck, to be able to simply drop a trip when you need to without doing cheetah flips to get it done.
Our staffing is crap, the kompany runs rough shod over our PWA at will, and you come here to tell us we're ****ing lazy. Nice work hoss. Sure you enjoy the kindergarten level of verifying sick time too?
No, I want improvements for all of us across the board. That starts with staffing us properly. Keeping us flying OUR passengers, it then moves to making it a $$$$ as possible to RR us. and on and on as so many have pointed out here and in other threads. Our contract needs fixing. simple as that.
I think you totally miss what we are talking about.
This thread is about contract 2022.
The fact you spend most of your post doing precisely what you said in the first sentence you were not going to do says a lot.
I don't have hours every day to sit around and hawk iCrew looking at open time and the swap board. That's great you've made it a cottage industry in your life. Most of us don't.
Guess what, I can get weekedns off anytime I want via PBS, senior enough to do that all day long. Same for most holiday's (all or nothing type games). I've tried the swap.drop etc thing but whe you don't have enough folks that doesn't work. Besides most would rather hang for the GS. It's very convienient you are yet another one of us that seems to have trips others are willing to pick up on the swap board. Or you are staffed in your BES you can actually drop. Or maybe you bid reserve and fill it up, yes,we are all aware of strategies.
Our point here is that it should not take massive machinations, and a lot of luck, to be able to simply drop a trip when you need to without doing cheetah flips to get it done.
Our staffing is crap, the kompany runs rough shod over our PWA at will, and you come here to tell us we're ****ing lazy. Nice work hoss. Sure you enjoy the kindergarten level of verifying sick time too?
No, I want improvements for all of us across the board. That starts with staffing us properly. Keeping us flying OUR passengers, it then moves to making it a $$$$ as possible to RR us. and on and on as so many have pointed out here and in other threads. Our contract needs fixing. simple as that.
01-20-2022 | 11:44 AM
#486
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Joined: Jan 2011
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From: Wind checker
Any discussion of using CPI increases on future amendable years to keep the company from using inflation against us?
We became amendable in Jan 2019. The company can agree to a 15% percent (or so....no idea of the correct number) increase and the pilot cost will be flat in 2019 dollars given inflation.
Our contract value is eroding just sitting here. I'm hoping there is some mechanism for this going forward to prevent rewarding the company for slow rolling the process.
We became amendable in Jan 2019. The company can agree to a 15% percent (or so....no idea of the correct number) increase and the pilot cost will be flat in 2019 dollars given inflation.
Our contract value is eroding just sitting here. I'm hoping there is some mechanism for this going forward to prevent rewarding the company for slow rolling the process.
01-20-2022 | 11:44 AM
#487
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I agree with your post (the majority of which I edited out).... but I am a little amused that you spent about 4 hours a month to massage you schedule(less than 10 minutes per day avg, as if that is a huge investment of time) to "BUILD" a fairly decent schedule as a junior capt. I would call that an excellent return on investment on time spent.
01-20-2022 | 11:58 AM
#488
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You can do both, the two actions are not mutually exclusive. I'm super senior in seat and I've worked my schedule to be so nice that, aside from one day, I haven't left my house for anything other than greenslips in the last 6 months. That doesn't mean that I don't think we need some big improvements in our contract and that I won't will complain about them every chance I can. For example anyone in the top 50% in category shouldn't be forced into coverage, whether they choose a line holder or reserve. Based on how crappy things have gotten, my new % qualifier to move up is 30%, that's pretty sad wrt our QOL.
01-20-2022 | 12:07 PM
#489
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Joined: Jul 2010
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From: window seat
I know "first pager" on a NB, living in base, who couldn't handle the horrible schedules anymore, moved to another base (also a first pager) still couldn't handle it and punched out for a WB.
01-20-2022 | 12:37 PM
#490
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined: Jun 2021
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I most certainly do not. NOBODY on here is saying our rotations aren't much worse than they were 3-4 years ago. We definitely need improvements and hopefully figure out a way to give the RCC some teeth. However, I'm agreeing with a few on here saying that there are MANY ways to improve your *******ty schedule to a less *******ty schedule that is well above what is commensurate with your seniority.
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