Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3393581)

STT definitely needs special performance to avoid heavy weight restrictions. Even the 757 occasionally is payload optimized. B6 often has a Tech stop for gas on the way back to JFK

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Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3393484)

Ironically after yelling at the top of their lungs for years about being RJ flying inhouse Mainline pilots are finally getting their wish but now are in an uproar about the schedules.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3393644)

Its not the "regional flying" that's the issue. Its the massively diluted BES redundancy and enhanced by relentless marketing that boosts credit and puts one penny over pilot QOL, all force multiplied by the 2018 Optimizer with the Prime Directive to reduce credit to the bone.

It doesn't have to be as bad as it is. Even regionals and LCC's don't have zero to 2% commutable trips.

Originally Posted by saturn (Post 3393545)

I'd argue since 2018 we haven't seen much increase in value per day, just increased productivity for siimilar pay. NB 3 days are usually ~15:45, 4 days ~21:00. Diference is now the block time is closer ro 15:45, 21:00...soft credit is being eliminated. They've found combining inherent unproductive days with high block days results in no increase in pay, as long as doesn't exceed min trip salaray aka ADG.

Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr (Post 3393541)

Interesting. I didn’t get an ACARS a coupes weeks ago, although it was a strange setup.

On our last flight of the day we had to divert to the alternate. No ACARS on the way to the alternate nor when we initialized for the leg back to the original destination.

Although we knew we were extending, the only indication from the company was on the LATT worksheet on the flight plan addendum. The LATT for “without extension” was blank and the “with extension” had the correct time.

Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3393673)

This. Imagine how many millions could be saved by maintaining every Delta workspace at 80 degrees Fahrenheit in the summer and 60 in the winter. Luckily for those who work in these spaces, quality of daily life at work matters more to management than the potential HVAC dollars saved (not to mention the reduced effect on climate change that Delta says they care about). Dollars spent/invested in our pilot qol are not treated similarly.

We need to get back to certain levels of quality of life that are simply the costs of doing business. Otherwise I fear where this optimizer path takes us in the years and decades ahead…

Originally Posted by Myfingershurt;[url=tel:3393695

3393695[/url]]I think the ACARS messages only come between pushback and takeoff. If you’re already airborne and get rerouted or put in holding they extension is automatically applied…cause you’re in the air. If you diverted and signed a release with a LATT extension already applied, there’s no need for the ACARS message cause you can still be reached by phone.

Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3393517)

I'm glad someone finally said it out loud.

For years I listened to mainline pilots of all companies bragging how they were going to scope out all the RJs and "take it back". I told them I hope you do but I hope you also realize what that flying will be. Not long after that the 717 was christened the Triple Nickel with 5 leg days, 5 day trips, and $5 an hour less than the 88. They all complained about overnighting in podunk places we used to fly props to. Now it sounds like that has spread to all the NB fleets. The accelerating demise of the express carriers is only going to make this worse. Somebody has to do that flying. But it's not a new thing. I distinctly remember buddies on the 9 at NWA telling me about 4 day trips that never left the state of MI.

Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3393517)

I'm glad someone finally said it out loud.

For years I listened to mainline pilots of all companies bragging how they were going to scope out all the RJs and "take it back". I told them I hope you do but I hope you also realize what that flying will be. Not long after that the 717 was christened the Triple Nickel with 5 leg days, 5 day trips, and $5 an hour less than the 88. They all complained about overnighting in podunk places we used to fly props to. Now it sounds like that has spread to all the NB fleets. The accelerating demise of the express carriers is only going to make this worse. Somebody has to do that flying. But it's not a new thing. I distinctly remember buddies on the 9 at NWA telling me about 4 day trips that never left the state of MI.

Originally Posted by DrunkIrishman (Post 3393986)

I never heard a mainline pilot say they wanted regional schedules applied to mainline flying. What has occurred here on the 737/320/757 is not what was ever desired or intended, at least not by mainline pilots.