Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
#1261
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Question I'm hoping there's an answer to...In NavBlue, you can slice and dice your own bid package in so many different ways to see what's available. Is there a similar way to do that outside of this outside of the bid window (looks at previous months) and/or outside of your own base or equipment? Or are we just stuck with the PDF's on the CR page?
#1262
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From: DAL 330
I bid reserve for October becasue I have vacation. My shadow period was early in the month and I have X and golden days for later in the month. I had a golden day placed in the middle of my shadow period and will be flying IOE over this day - I assume no extra pay becasue it was in the shadow period - is this correct?
Second question - Can they schedule me for IOE on my late month X/Golden days and if they do does it count as a reserve GS?
Any reference would be appreciated - I looked in the Scheduling reference handbook but could not find it - I suck at searching documents.
Thanks Scoop
Second question - Can they schedule me for IOE on my late month X/Golden days and if they do does it count as a reserve GS?
Any reference would be appreciated - I looked in the Scheduling reference handbook but could not find it - I suck at searching documents.
Thanks Scoop
#1263
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I bid reserve for October becasue I have vacation. My shadow period was early in the month and I have X and golden days for later in the month. I had a golden day placed in the middle of my shadow period and will be flying IOE over this day - I assume no extra pay becasue it was in the shadow period - is this correct?
Second question - Can they schedule me for IOE on my late month X/Golden days and if they do does it count as a reserve GS?
Any reference would be appreciated - I looked in the Scheduling reference handbook but could not find it - I suck at searching documents.
Thanks Scoop
Second question - Can they schedule me for IOE on my late month X/Golden days and if they do does it count as a reserve GS?
Any reference would be appreciated - I looked in the Scheduling reference handbook but could not find it - I suck at searching documents.
Thanks Scoop
#1264
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I bid reserve for October becasue I have vacation. My shadow period was early in the month and I have X and golden days for later in the month. I had a golden day placed in the middle of my shadow period and will be flying IOE over this day - I assume no extra pay becasue it was in the shadow period - is this correct?
Second question - Can they schedule me for IOE on my late month X/Golden days and if they do does it count as a reserve GS?
Any reference would be appreciated - I looked in the Scheduling reference handbook but could not find it - I suck at searching documents.
Thanks Scoop
Second question - Can they schedule me for IOE on my late month X/Golden days and if they do does it count as a reserve GS?
Any reference would be appreciated - I looked in the Scheduling reference handbook but could not find it - I suck at searching documents.
Thanks Scoop
As for the golden day in your shadow period…I do not believe you will receive any extra pay. Perhaps a PB. This is the part I have not experienced.
Now what I have experienced: Yes, they can schedule you for OE later in the month over * or X days. If you do OE over them, you will receive a PB day, but you are not a qualified reserve pilot during this time. What that means is if your trip releases after 1500, you will only get the PB days. No PR will be coming your way. (I learned that one the hard/embarrassing way). No extra pay either, since you can’t get a reserve GS if you are not a qualified pilot.
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#1265
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I bid reserve for October becasue I have vacation. My shadow period was early in the month and I have X and golden days for later in the month. I had a golden day placed in the middle of my shadow period and will be flying IOE over this day - I assume no extra pay becasue it was in the shadow period - is this correct?
Second question - Can they schedule me for IOE on my late month X/Golden days and if they do does it count as a reserve GS?
Any reference would be appreciated - I looked in the Scheduling reference handbook but could not find it - I suck at searching documents.
Thanks Scoop
Second question - Can they schedule me for IOE on my late month X/Golden days and if they do does it count as a reserve GS?
Any reference would be appreciated - I looked in the Scheduling reference handbook but could not find it - I suck at searching documents.
Thanks Scoop
Not sure the reference, but that was my conversation with ALPA when I asked.
Edit: got beat to it.
#1266
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From: DAL 330
I don’t know the answer to all your questions but yes they can schedule OE anytime in the shadow period. The decision to bId reserve in a month with a shadow period is a bit odd and probably cost you a serious chunk of change if you had any bidding horsepower at all as a line holder.
I have bidding horsepower but with a planned vacation and a wedding to attend I had zero flexibility with my schedule - life sometimes does that. I decided the 86 hours on reserve with the vacation was the best I was going to do.
Thanks for all the answers guys.

Scoop
#1267
Here's a strange one. I'm pricing tickets to HND and the nonstop from SEA is quite a bit more than a flight from PDX with a connection to SEA onto the same nonstop flight. My question is; if you skip the connection and show up in SEA for the flight to HND, would your reservation be forfeited?
#1268
Here's a strange one. I'm pricing tickets to HND and the nonstop from SEA is quite a bit more than a flight from PDX with a connection to SEA onto the same nonstop flight. My question is; if you skip the connection and show up in SEA for the flight to HND, would your reservation be forfeited?
The pricing you're describing is very typical for flight with a connection, and what you're thinking of doing comes up a lot. Airlines figured it out a long time ago...
#1269
Thanks for the quick response. That was my assumption. I can understand why the premium is attached to the nonstop flight. I can't say I'm surprised they've prevented people from gaming the system.
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