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iLikeMoose 06-18-2023 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3652858)
One thing that’s nice is that you can slide any vacation days in a given bid period anywhere else in the bid period as long as you are not subject to a coverage award (forced working on short days). So even if you don’t get the exact week off you want you still have a good shot at moving. With the new holiday pay I think it will be easier to avoid coverage awards on holidays as people bid to work for the extra pay.

Ah, so basically the question is moreso if I could hold a May vacation, rather than the specific week? That sounds like a good sign. Apologies for the basic question, I am a newbie to y’all’s system (currently a CJO holder).

Meme In Command 06-18-2023 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by iLikeMoose (Post 3652870)
Ah, so basically the question is moreso if I could hold a May vacation, rather than the specific week? That sounds like a good sign. Apologies for the basic question, I am a newbie to y’all’s system (currently a CJO holder).

Ask away, ignore the haters and welcome aboard!

FangsF15 06-18-2023 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by iLikeMoose (Post 3652870)
Ah, so basically the question is moreso if I could hold a May vacation, rather than the specific week? That sounds like a good sign. Apologies for the basic question, I am a newbie to y’all’s system (currently a CJO holder).

Congrats and welcome aboard. Generally summer vacation weeks go quite senior. Depending on the category and base, Memorial Day weekend is in a “bridge time” to summer, but still won’t likely be available to you for a while on the initial vacation bid. A vacation earlier in May, with an in-month ‘slide’ might be doable.

Keep in mind, vacation bidding starts in January for the following vacation year (Apr-Mar), and vacation will be prorated down below 2 weeks if not in property by 1 Apr. If prorated below 2 weeks, you will have to take it all in one stretch. In other words, if you get hired today, you won’t get a full 2 weeks for the 24-25 vacation year and will have to take all those days at one time.

Puddytatt 06-18-2023 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by iLikeMoose (Post 3652870)
Ah, so basically the question is moreso if I could hold a May vacation, rather than the specific week? That sounds like a good sign. Apologies for the basic question, I am a newbie to y’all’s system (currently a CJO holder).

The #1 pilot probably wouldn't be able to hold 3 weeks in the summer because of the way we bid. You could bid for 1 or 2 weeks, and buy up to 10 days to add to it though. You can only bid for 2 weeks at a time, and every other pilot gets a chance at their primary vacation before you can bid for your third week. But if you buy the extra vacation days, they are automatically approved if done before the vacation bids. Then you can stick them where you want them, with some exceptions in April/May, December, and January bid periods.

It took until above 50% in category to be able to hold a week in the summer though, so it might be a while until you can hold anything. You can always try and swap your vacation with others, but probably not very likely to get a summer one.

capncrunch 06-18-2023 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Puddytatt (Post 3652881)
You can only bid for 2 weeks at a time, and every other pilot gets a chance at their primary vacation before you can bid for your third week.

I’m not sure that’s true. I plopped 4 weeks down this summer via my primary. It was the end of July into August so maybe that helped?!?

CX500T 06-18-2023 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by 20Fathoms (Post 3652840)
I’m sure there’s some way to find it, but does anybody have a rough category percentage needed to hold 3 consecutive weeks of vacay in the summer? No specific dates or holidays just 3 weeks off when the kids are off. TIA.

85% NYC 320A. Was probably 90% or so when vacation bids went int.

5-18 JUN Vacation (late op'd into day 1, so they slid my vacation a day right that's why it's Mon-Sun vs Sun-Sat)
19-24 JUN X-Days
25 JUN PB Day (from late ops)
So I'm off 3 weeks straight, in June.

New enough that I didn't get 3 weeks of vacation in the old contract, so I can't tell you if I got 3, but I was able to get awarded 2, and bid for and get another week of X days after.

20Fathoms 06-18-2023 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3652918)
85% NYC 320A. Was probably 90% or so when vacation bids went int.

5-18 JUN Vacation (late op'd into day 1, so they slid my vacation a day right that's why it's Mon-Sun vs Sun-Sat)
19-24 JUN X-Days
25 JUN PB Day (from late ops)
So I'm off 3 weeks straight, in June.

New enough that I didn't get 3 weeks of vacation in the old contract, so I can't tell you if I got 3, but I was able to get awarded 2, and bid for and get another week of X days after.

Great data point appreciate it.

Maddoggin 06-19-2023 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by 20Fathoms (Post 3652941)
Great data point appreciate it.

We also have IVDs. Individual vacation days. You can use them on two separate occasions and can use a future vacation day to drop a trip. I’ll be doing this next month to get a week plus off. You lose some pay obviously but I can pick up in other months to average out a low month. Only real limitation is you cannt use it around certain holidays. Ie July 4th. Great tool though if you can’t get a vacation week where you want.

bugman61 06-19-2023 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 3652912)
I’m not sure that’s true. I plopped 4 weeks down this summer via my primary. It was the end of July into August so maybe that helped?!?

There is no 2 week limit. From the SRH:


You may bid your entire allotted vacation in one period or split it into multiple vacation periods.

Jaww 06-19-2023 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by Maddoggin (Post 3653008)
We also have IVDs. Individual vacation days. You can use them on two separate occasions and can use a future vacation day to drop a trip. I’ll be doing this next month to get a week plus off. You lose some pay obviously but I can pick up in other months to average out a low month. Only real limitation is you cannt use it around certain holidays. Ie July 4th. Great tool though if you can’t get a vacation week where you want.

IVDs are the undisputed heavyweight champion of getting the summer time you need off. The above cannot be overstated. if you want summer weeks off, use an IVD if you don’t have vacation. Bank time or work around the IVD. It’s not perfect but you can have summer vacations here without too much hassle.


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