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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3417837)
At UAL a good chunk of your off days can be moved at company discretion to cover longer international trips. At Delta a 6 day trip can be difficult to cover as most reserves won’t have 6 days available and the required rest. The trip gets split into two 4 day trips. That’s very costly to the company. It gets even more costly for trips that can’t be split or are longer than 6 days as often a GS is the only option. At UAL they simply slide your off days and give you the intact 6 day or longer trip.
Let’s not even get into the discussion of airport standby for reserves at UAL. Can you imagine if Delta asked for that in the contract? im definitely not saying we need to rush to give up no airport reserve, but there may be reasons to consider it. |
Absolutely no to airport reserve.
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Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3417889)
Absolutely no to airport reserve.
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
(Post 3417897)
Even if it is only a choice selected by the pilot(at the pilots choosing, not assignable by the company) and was incentivized?
but sure, I guess if you can get the company to give you a bunch of pay for something they don’t really need with absolutely no downsides, go for it. |
Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3417889)
Absolutely no to airport reserve.
their SC callout is 2.5 hrs if you can make a callout less than 2.5 but greater than 1.5 hrs you get (I think 2) hours extra if you can make a callout less than 1.5 hours but no less than 30 mins, you get (I think) 5 hrs extra |
Originally Posted by Gone Flying
(Post 3417923)
Or maybe something like their reduced SC callout incentive. (All voluntary)
their SC callout is 2.5 hrs if you can make a callout less than 2.5 but greater than 1.5 hrs you get (I think 2) hours extra if you can make a callout less than 1.5 hours but no less than 30 mins, you get (I think) 5 hrs extra Either way, let the company establish a need and see what they’ll pay for in negotiations |
Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3417889)
Absolutely no to airport reserve.
Oh, sorry. When you said "ABSOLUTELY NO" you were using a different dictionary to define what "absolutely" means? Cool, we just make up words where the meaning is opaque. This is not nit-picking some typo....it is tough to discuss ideas and concepts when you have your own dictionary. |
Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3417928)
Absolutely no to publishing a SC time. Also, I can’t wait for the first San Diego or Philly commuter doing 95 on a freeway to slide in for 5 extra hours to get in an accident.
Either way, let the company establish a need and see what they’ll pay for in negotiations The reason for these thoughts is I'm guessing the company would seek reserve improvements like this if we seriously want to fix reroute issues. |
Originally Posted by Gone Flying
(Post 3417935)
ignore the 2.5, I should have been more clear but my point was allow other reduced times maybe an extra incentive if you can make a 1 hour or 30 min callout.
The reason for these thoughts is I'm guessing the company would seek reserve improvements like this if we seriously want to fix reroute issues. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3417941)
Reserve improvements would certainly reduce reroutes. The two go hand in hand. The problem is the Company will probably reject any voluntary options. How many pilots will hold their hand up for airport standby XMas morning?
I don't know, how many? Jewish? Agnostic? Athesist? Muslim? Single? No family? No plans for the holiday? On call anyway? Weather rearing it's ugly head? Commuter? Get extra hours/pay/some incentive? Company wants it for isolated circumstances? Is it possible to come up with a win win that is voluntary? I think it could be a possibility |
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