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Gunfighter 10-15-2024 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 3844437)
The more seniority you accrue, the more you want to see S2's disappear.

As a pilot, you will never have enough seniority that your DOH puts you at the top of the list. Our senior pilot is still junior to a massive number of FAs, etc.
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Hotel Kilo 10-15-2024 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3844439)
As a pilot, you will never have enough seniority that your DOH puts you at the top of the list. Our senior pilot is still junior to a massive number of FAs, etc.
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And they get 8 S2s as well. Beernutt was spot on.

Fastpilot 10-15-2024 01:00 PM

Have to use S2s wisely. If you snipe one at the last minute of check in, it could be beneficial.

Gunfighter 10-15-2024 01:42 PM

I'm happy commuting JS and S3 with PS backup and having higher priority S2 for my vacation travel.

Gone Flying 10-15-2024 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3844439)
As a pilot, you will never have enough seniority that your DOH puts you at the top of the list. Our senior pilot is still junior to a massive number of FAs, etc.
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this is part of the reason I would like to see time of checkin factoring into NR priority. Maybe TOC for s2s or DOH for the first hour of checkin then TOC after that.

ive used both systems pretty extensively and can say TOC is superior.

the number 1 pilot here has thousands of noncons senior to them. Almost 1,000 FAs alone.

LeineLodge 10-15-2024 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3844465)
this is part of the reason I would like to see time of checkin factoring into NR priority. Maybe TOC for s2s or DOH for the first hour of checkin then TOC after that.

ive used both systems pretty extensively and can say TOC is superior.

the number 1 pilot here has thousands of noncons senior to them. Almost 1,000 FAs alone.

No thanks.

Not interested in hovering over a button to try to QuickDraw somebody hired last week.

CX500T 10-15-2024 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 3844476)
No thanks.

Not interested in hovering over a button to try to QuickDraw somebody hired last week.

I've thought a good system would be 12/24/36 whatever pick one out, all listed by DOH. At some point it goes to check-in time vs that.

When I was commuting there was a flight attendant who lived in my neighbohood with a 1970s hire date, and would list for what was my "wide open" commuter flight (5-10 open on a CRJ200) with 3-5 grandkids after I was already at the airport. "Wanted to take the grandkids to see a show/go to macys/whatever nyc thing"

You knew more than 20 minutes ago you were rounding up the grandkids (who were all oddly S3s). I saw you picking Alex and Amy up because their mom lives across the street from me at lunchtime.

Just list so we can plan accordingly. You were hired before 50% of the seniority list (FA and Pilot) was born. You will get on.

Gone Flying 10-15-2024 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3844481)
I've thought a good system would be 12/24/36 whatever pick one out, all listed by DOH. At some point it goes to check-in time vs that.

When I was commuting there was a flight attendant who lived in my neighbohood with a 1970s hire date, and would list for what was my "wide open" commuter flight (5-10 open on a CRJ200) with 3-5 grandkids after I was already at the airport. "Wanted to take the grandkids to see a show/go to macys/whatever nyc thing"

You knew more than 20 minutes ago you were rounding up the grandkids (who were all oddly S3s). I saw you picking Alex and Amy up because their mom lives across the street from me at lunchtime.

Just list so we can plan accordingly. You were hired before 50% of the seniority list (FA and Pilot) was born. You will get on.

case and point. Making it first few hours DOH then TOC after that for would be a vast improvement.



Gone Flying 10-15-2024 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 3844476)
No thanks.

Not interested in hovering over a button to try to QuickDraw somebody hired last week.

beats having 20 people list inside an hour prior and blow your chances of making a flight. With TOC everyone lists 24 hours out and makes things far more predictable.

the difference in pilot seniority between a June 2021 hire and a June 2024 hire (3 years) is about the same as between a June 2021 hire and a June 2001 hire (20 years). Someone hired this year can look forward to decades of getting beat out by tens of thousands of employees and their families all hired within 3 years of them.

Hubcapped 10-15-2024 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3844485)
beats having 20 people list inside an hour prior and blow your chances of making a flight. With TOC everyone lists 24 hours out and makes things far more predictable.

One issue i see with this…….when you are trying to get somewhere and that day goes into the crapper, wouldn’t this system destroy our ability to be flexible? If i dont make a flight, and want to try an alternate route, it would be pretty crappy to not get on because a new hire checked in before you on your backup plan. Id rather just keep it senority based in this hypothetical situation that will never actually arise


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