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Old 10-17-2024 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by waldo135
What if Delta offered the seats to employees at a HUGE discount (say 75% off), but only 24 hours out. Excess seats go away, and we could go to the airport knowing we have a seat.
Prob the same reason that restaurants don't slash their prices towards closing time. If you are known to slash at the last minute, everyone waits until the last minute. They prob make more from last minute FCFL(I do this regularly when flights dont look great). It would obviously be great for us, but not ideal for them.
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Old 10-17-2024 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by marcal
Prob the same reason that restaurants don't slash their prices towards closing time. If you are known to slash at the last minute, everyone waits until the last minute. They prob make more from last minute FCFL(I do this regularly when flights dont look great). It would obviously be great for us, but not ideal for them.

Are you going as far as insinuating Delta has a revenue management department?????

And here I assumed that Delta garners a revenue premium because they are just perennially lucky! /S
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Old 10-17-2024 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Other than the "oops" reward passes I don't think we will ever get positive space passes. Non-rev is exactly that... non revenue travel, the company makes no money on the seat. FCFL is not a non-rev seat but a ticket discount. Sure, every employee would love a free or deaply discounted ticket, but... If Delta is going to remove seats from inventory they are forgoing revenue. Excess seats that go unsold have no opportunity cost so they are free.
Ok, I see that.
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Old 10-17-2024 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by marcal
Prob the same reason that restaurants don't slash their prices towards closing time. If you are known to slash at the last minute, everyone waits until the last minute. They prob make more from last minute FCFL(I do this regularly when flights dont look great). It would obviously be great for us, but not ideal for them.
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Old 10-17-2024 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by marcal
Prob the same reason that restaurants don't slash their prices towards closing time. If you are known to slash at the last minute, everyone waits until the last minute. They prob make more from last minute FCFL(I do this regularly when flights dont look great). It would obviously be great for us, but not ideal for them.
United does exactly that for its employees though. Confirmed employee-only fares booked many weeks / months in advance are generally comparable to our FCFL fares. If a considerable number of seats remain open a day or two before departure, they drop their employee fares sharply (I’ve seen as low as $40). It’s all based on revenue management’s algorithm predicting that the seats are highly unlikely to be sold to paying customers.
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Old 10-17-2024 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ancman
United does exactly that for its employees though. Confirmed employee-only fares booked many weeks / months in advance are generally comparable to our FCFL fares. If a considerable number of seats remain open a day or two before departure, they drop their employee fares sharply (I’ve seen as low as $40). It’s all based on revenue management’s algorithm predicting that the seats are highly unlikely to be sold to paying customers.
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Old 10-18-2024 | 02:48 AM
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I didn't think we were allowed to switch priorities after check-in. Has something changed? Or are rogue gate agents doing this?
Outside the cutoff time,* you can simply check in again & make different choices in the process.

If blocked, you can ask the gate agent to do it up to :30 prior. Cancel/relist is also an option, as others have said (subject to checked bags issues, as you said).


*allegedly :30 minutes, but more typically whenever the gate agent “takes control” ~1:00 out; prob longer for international
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Old 10-18-2024 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
Outside the cutoff time,* you can simply check in again & make different choices in the process.

If blocked, you can ask the gate agent to do it up to :30 prior. Cancel/relist is also an option, as others have said (subject to checked bags issues, as you said).


*allegedly :30 minutes, but more typically whenever the gate agent “takes control” ~1:00 out; prob longer for international
I always thought this was a no-no, so I went on DNet to look. Which explains how to change your check in code after checking in and cutoff to do so. I do think it’s in bad form when 3 pilots are standing there trying to nonrev home, and last minute the jr guy throws down the S2 and takes the last seat. I never use my S2s anyway, not sure why I hold onto them and don’t use to commute home…… guess I learned something today.
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Old 10-18-2024 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
I always thought this was a no-no, so I went on DNet to look. Which explains how to change your check in code after checking in and cutoff to do so. I do think it’s in bad form when 3 pilots are standing there trying to nonrev home, and last minute the jr guy throws down the S2 and takes the last seat. I never use my S2s anyway, not sure why I hold onto them and don’t use to commute home…… guess I learned something today.
I use my S2 the month prior to my anniversary date. The Jr pilot is using his S2 benefit, same as OBWS, it’s a benefit and everyone can use it at their wish. Same way I had the JS and endeavor pilots gets first and I ended up in a middle seat in coach. I decided to book and keep the JS…

Now that’s something we should change. If you book the JS, we should be able to flow back to a seat if available with our seniority date. When your turn in the list comes up, the Agent should ask us if we want a seat or a JS (like AA does). But that’s never going to change…
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Old 10-18-2024 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
I use my S2 the month prior to my anniversary date. The Jr pilot is using his S2 benefit, same as OBWS, it’s a benefit and everyone can use it at their wish. Same way I had the JS and endeavor pilots gets first and I ended up in a middle seat in coach. I decided to book and keep the JS…

Now that’s something we should change. If you book the JS, we should be able to flow back to a seat if available with our seniority date. When your turn in the list comes up, the Agent should ask us if we want a seat or a JS (like AA does). But that’s never going to change…
no, that’s way over complicated for gate agents and everyone involved. You should check the loads and relist like everyone else does
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