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Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3479285)

Supposedly the amount of “non-refundable deposit” money UAL, AA, and others have put into this is akin to what they would spend on billboards along an interstate. It’s marketing hype, something Delta is generally the industry leader in.

source for the size of the investments?

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Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3479288)

source for the size of the investments?

AA Chief Pilot type, via some sort of management meeting.

Hence the use of the word “supposedly”.

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Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 3479234)

Well in this case...we don't. This is no more a threat to our careers than the Concorde was.

If management has no plans for it, then we should broach it at the table to gauge the reaction. This should be an easy get 1:1 SSTs. Virgin is a foundational investor.

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Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3479549)

If management has no plans for it, then we should broach it at the table to gauge the reaction. This should be an easy get 1:1 SSTs. Virgin is a foundational investor.

I like that thinking, maybe lock in a pay rate for it too, or any equivalent speed demons!

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Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3479288)

source for the size of the investments?

I can't imagine they'd spend more than board room petty cash on something like that. They probably got more free in-kind advertising from the subsequent articles written about it than it cost them anyway.

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Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 3479234)

Well in this case...we don't. This is no more a threat to our careers than the Concorde was.

Well if Air France was still flying the Concordes to NYC today, that would be apart of our Blue Skies JV. The level of threat to careers is measured on ratio of current and future flying metrics between Delta and Partner. We just got to make sure all transborder flying is accounted for. All jets matter.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3479196)

I can assure you no one has ordered anything despite what the press states. There is no airframe, engines or even a prototype flying. If Delta placed a order for 200 797’s in the press would you consider it a order tomorrow? I have a delivery position secured for a Z06 Vette. I am not calling it a order.

Some of us here have a long career ahead of us. Mitigate tomorrow's threats, today. Some might be clear and present, others low risk & hypothetical (like overture). I see no reason NOT to put something in writting. Having no plan, and banking on nothing ever evolving is naïve.

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Originally Posted by saturn (Post 3479836)

Well if Air France was still flying the Concordes to NYC today, that would be apart of our Blue Skies JV.

Ever been on that thing? It was like a Mach 2 E145 with a better wine list.

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3479919)

Ever been on that thing? It was like a Mach 2 E145 with a better wine list.

Same yokes too :D

In all the excitement about the contract, it'd be easy to miss this note from the latest company weekly email:

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In addition to the contract AIP, Delta and ALPA also reached an agreement on the final language for Global Scope.

Looks like we will in fact be able to see the scope provisions (and hopefully vote on it) before the full contract.

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Originally Posted by PilotWombat (Post 3546882)

In all the excitement about the contract, it'd be easy to miss this note from the latest company weekly email:

Looks like we will in fact be able to see the scope provisions (and hopefully vote on it) before the full contract.

They are going to be voted on simultaneously. In talking to one of the negotiators (not one of the spineless reps) about the scope provisions, they seem legit. No more dragging out transgressions by JV partners and throwing a few million at us 3 years later. It is black and white formulaic that they cannot workaround. (His words) I'm looking forward to seeing the language and the 14, some odd thousand of us tear it apart to find the loopholes.