Re-route pay
06-23-2022, 08:45 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
It also applies to any flying known more than 14 hours in advance.
Wonder how many pilots lost thousands on that gem this last year?
06-23-2022, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123
I thought it was 3 hours in advance. Oh, that’s right. Couple ADG guys signed that away for pennies on the dollar a few years back, cause most of us just don’t understand.
Wonder how many pilots lost thousands on that gem this last year?
Wonder how many pilots lost thousands on that gem this last year?
06-23-2022, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaxs170
So how should this one work: Illegally rerouted (return > 4hrs after scheduled) into segment that was (well) beyond 14 hours out?
RR was done after completion of flying on day 3/5 (resulting in no flying on day 4) due to aircraft and FAs not making it to AUS.
They originally gave us a different RR for day 4 before changing it to the illegal RR
Time card shows RR pay for day 5 flying and trip credit.
I'm thinking we should get RR pay for what we did on day 3 as well since that is when the RR was placed on our schedule, plus assignment pay since they didn't even try to cover the open segment properly.
Also, the DH back to base was to JFK and we started at LGA. Should we get duty time credit for the ground DH back to LGA? I only ask because we ended up on a duty rig for pay purposes.
RR was done after completion of flying on day 3/5 (resulting in no flying on day 4) due to aircraft and FAs not making it to AUS.
They originally gave us a different RR for day 4 before changing it to the illegal RR
Time card shows RR pay for day 5 flying and trip credit.
I'm thinking we should get RR pay for what we did on day 3 as well since that is when the RR was placed on our schedule, plus assignment pay since they didn't even try to cover the open segment properly.
Also, the DH back to base was to JFK and we started at LGA. Should we get duty time credit for the ground DH back to LGA? I only ask because we ended up on a duty rig for pay purposes.
Just to clarify, that’s not necessarily an illegal reroute, just a reroute where you are due reroute pay. Sounds like you are due reroute pay for days 4 and 5, no assignment pay due. You will be paid for the ground dh from jfk to lga on your PAS, $18.75.
06-23-2022, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bugman61
Just to clarify, that’s not necessarily an illegal reroute, just a reroute where you are due reroute pay. Sounds like you are due reroute pay for days 4 and 5, no assignment pay due. You will be paid for the ground dh from jfk to lga on your PAS, $18.75.
06-25-2022, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bugman61
Just to clarify, that’s not necessarily an illegal reroute, just a reroute where you are due reroute pay. Sounds like you are due reroute pay for days 4 and 5, no assignment pay due. You will be paid for the ground dh from jfk to lga on your PAS, $18.75.
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06-25-2022, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaxs170
Someone in SLC should be entitled to some additional pay (or at least I hope so) since the segment was not covered properly even if I'm not due assignment pay for CT not following the rules, right?
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Maybe, maybe not. They only have to cover the segment from the base it originated in if it’s legal to do so when the segment become uncovered, and if they can cover it from the originating base with the same number of duty periods. ALPA will figure it out.
06-26-2022, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123
I thought it was 3 hours in advance. Oh, that’s right. Couple ADG guys signed that away for pennies on the dollar a few years back, cause most of us just don’t understand.
Wonder how many pilots lost thousands on that gem this last year?
Wonder how many pilots lost thousands on that gem this last year?
06-26-2022, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
That one 23.L.4 note has cost Delta pilots millions and millions of dollars. When ALPA agreed to it, I'm guessing mgmt was thinking these idiots, and laughed all the way to the bank.
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