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notEnuf 11-11-2022 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 3530013)
To clarify, the only way to get your trip shown as a Q trip in open time is to submit a personal drop request via the iCrew menu. Posting a swap board pickup won't automatically do that for you (though I wish it did).

Oops, I must be recalling old functionality or confusing it with a previous employer. corrected above

BCan 11-11-2022 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by Falcon20 (Post 3529996)
Its in scheduling alerts 19-12, 20-25 and 22-01.

Recall that, if you wish to use PB Days to drop a rotation(s) on which there is insufficient
reserve coverage and you do not wish to use your APD or an IVD, you may submit both a PB
Day and a PD request for the same rotation(s). If another pilot subsequently is awarded the
resulting Qualified Personal Drop (QPD) rotation, your PD request will be awarded. You can
then use the SmartSheet on the Crew Resources/Scheduling page in DeltaNet to request that
a PB Day(s) be placed over the dropped rotation(s).

I’m going to re-read these as my wires are crossed. However, I just reviewed my Oct schedule…I had a weekend trip with no coverage…here is what I did;

1)post on icrew “pilot swap board” - drop trip “just put through”
2)trip taken by another pilot
3)filled out Sched worksheet to have PB days applied.
4)PB days received.

If someone can clarify this for me…I believe this is my incompetent way of accomplishing the Sched alert PDrop with PB day request. Doesn’t my listing on the swap board get the Q qualifier just like a PD request? Or did I get an incompetent scheduler and I need to tighten up?

If I’m totally wrong (probably)…please clarify how a PD vs a swap “just put through” differ in requirement(s) and presentation to other pilots looking for trips.

Thanks.

DryClutch 11-11-2022 06:03 AM

I've never had to use this smart-thing on DLnet with reference to PB days, does it work as advertised and is automatic or is it some black hole abyss you run down with no idea whats happening?

BCan 11-11-2022 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by DryClutch (Post 3530051)
I've never had to use this smart-thing on DLnet with reference to PB days, does it work as advertised and is automatic or is it some black hole abyss you run down with no idea whats happening?

My TOFF moves and payback days have been done overnight. I believe it’s manual process in scheduling.

Falcon20 11-11-2022 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by BCan (Post 3530050)
I’m going to re-read these as my wires are crossed. However, I just reviewed my Oct schedule…I had a weekend trip with no coverage…here is what I did;

1)post on icrew “pilot swap board” - drop trip “just put through”
2)trip taken by another pilot
3)filled out Sched worksheet to have PB days applied.
4)PB days received.

If someone can clarify this for me…I believe this is my incompetent way of accomplishing the Sched alert PDrop with PB day request. Doesn’t my listing on the swap board get the Q qualifier just like a PD request? Or did I get an incompetent scheduler and I need to tighten up?

If I’m totally wrong (probably)…please clarify how a PD vs a swap “just put through” differ in requirement(s) and presentation to other pilots looking for trips.

Thanks.

I think you got lucky however there may have been an update that wasn’t advertised.

Falcon20 11-11-2022 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by DryClutch (Post 3530051)
I've never had to use this smart-thing on DLnet with reference to PB days, does it work as advertised and is automatic or is it some black hole abyss you run down with no idea whats happening?

It works great. Sometimes it takes up to 48 hours to process as it is a manual process as stated above.

tennisguru 11-11-2022 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by DryClutch (Post 3530051)
I've never had to use this smart-thing on DLnet with reference to PB days, does it work as advertised and is automatic or is it some black hole abyss you run down with no idea whats happening?

I did the wash-rinse-repeat PB day thing a few weeks ago. I put in the smartsheet each time right after the PCS run was completed and it was always processed before the next PCS run started.

connollc 11-11-2022 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by BCan (Post 3530050)
I’m going to re-read these as my wires are crossed. However, I just reviewed my Oct schedule…I had a weekend trip with no coverage…here is what I did;

1)post on icrew “pilot swap board” - drop trip “just put through”
2)trip taken by another pilot
3)filled out Sched worksheet to have PB days applied.
4)PB days received.

If someone can clarify this for me…I believe this is my incompetent way of accomplishing the Sched alert PDrop with PB day request. Doesn’t my listing on the swap board get the Q qualifier just like a PD request? Or did I get an incompetent scheduler and I need to tighten up?

If I’m totally wrong (probably)…please clarify how a PD vs a swap “just put through” differ in requirement(s) and presentation to other pilots looking for trips.

Thanks.

This is exactly what I was wondering about. Only difference is my trip is also in OT as a Q trip. If someone picks it up off the swap board I’ll update whether or not PB day placement was successful. Not looking good for anyone wanting my trip on Mon, though.

Cessnadriver 11-11-2022 02:46 PM

So if I have stay the last 4 days of a month off and I greenslip on reserve I back 4 payback days.

Do I still get payback days if I am on reserve the subsequent month or do the payback days go on my first reserve days the next month?

notEnuf 11-11-2022 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Cessnadriver (Post 3530312)
So if I have stay the last 4 days of a month off and I greenslip on reserve I back 4 payback days.

Do I still get payback days if I am on reserve the subsequent month or do the payback days go on my first reserve days the next month?

They roll to the next on call day within the month, if none exist they go in the bank.


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