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Old 09-20-2022, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadStick View Post
I don’t think so…
You are wrong. PWA says 2 hours between flights and none of the flights have to be Delta. This is what you must comply with to be contractually compliant.

Now if you want Delta to positive space you as per the FOM, then the second flight has to be Delta or Delta Connection (makes sense because they're not gonna buy you a ticket on another airline).
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Old 09-20-2022, 07:42 AM
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I couldn’t care less
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Out of about 20 domestic legs I've flown in the last month, maybe 1/4 have been completely full? And every one of them had non revs on them. I have no idea why you think this is a non rev apocalypse.
Nothing to see here. Cockpits will remain empty. All jumpseaters will just flow back since there’s all kind of empty seats. ​​​​​​​
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Old 09-20-2022, 07:49 AM
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Nothing to see here. Cockpits will remain empty. All jumpseaters will just flow back since there’s all kind of empty seats.
I didn’t say that at all, I’m just saying that having a jumpseater doesn’t bother me one iota
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Old 09-20-2022, 07:53 AM
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Who wants jumpseaters every leg. Not me.
Sorry to inconvenience you
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Old 09-20-2022, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 View Post
You are wrong. PWA says 2 hours between flights and none of the flights have to be Delta. This is what you must comply with to be contractually compliant.

Now if you want Delta to positive space you as per the FOM, then the second flight has to be Delta or Delta Connection (makes sense because they're not gonna buy you a ticket on another airline).
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A commuting pilot who travels to his base by air will not be eligible for treatment under Section 23 X. 2. unless he has attempted to travel on at least two flights (on and/or off line) that: a. show adequate actual seat availability within 24 hours of the departure, considering the pilot's seniority and the normal load factor of the flight; or, on which the pilot has a jumpseat reservation, b. are scheduled to arrive at his base at a reasonable time before his scheduled report, and c. are separated by at least two hours.
I stand educated. Thank you all. Future conformity between the FOM and PWA would be nice for the sake of clarity. (As long as it’s not deleterious).

So, zero replies in support of 1 flight to work if you have the jumpseat reserved and it lands within a to-be-determined amount of time!?!?

Hip Hip! <crickets>

Hip Hip! <crickets>
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Old 09-20-2022, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadStick View Post
I stand educated. Thank you all. Future conformity between the FOM and PWA would be nice for the sake of clarity. (As long as it’s not deleterious).

So, zero replies in support of 1 flight to work if you have the jumpseat reserved and it lands within a to-be-determined amount of time!?!?

Hip Hip! <crickets>

Hip Hip! <crickets>
Are you seriously asking if we want a better commuter policy? Have you missed the thousands of posts here saying we need a better policy and demanding the company give us (not negotiate for, whatever that means), Positive Space Commuting?

Yes. We need a much better JS policy. At this point, the bar is PSC front and back end. We'll see what the union and company work out.
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Old 09-20-2022, 08:29 AM
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Yes. We need a much better JS policy. At this point, the bar is PSC front and back end. We'll see what the union and company work out.
Demanding front and back PSC. Good luck to us with that… (seriously)
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Old 09-20-2022, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadStick View Post
I stand educated. Thank you all. Future conformity between the FOM and PWA would be nice for the sake of clarity. (As long as it’s not deleterious).

So, zero replies in support of 1 flight to work if you have the jumpseat reserved and it lands within a to-be-determined amount of time!?!?

Hip Hip! <crickets>

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1 flight arriving within 1 hour of scheduled report is all we should have. Missed commute is loss of pay for the trip and treated as optional 23k to either pickup anything in open time or just take the pay hit.
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1 flight arriving within 1 hour of scheduled report is all we should have. Missed commute is loss of pay for the trip and treated as optional 23k to either pickup anything in open time or just take the pay hit.
What does within 1 hour mean? 1 hour before? The policy should be the allowed turn time for a DH. If the DH allowance is good enough for the company for operational reliability it should be good enough for a commute.
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Old 09-20-2022, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadStick View Post
Demanding front and back PSC. Good luck to us with that… (seriously)
Why should I expect anything less? We have that now and have had it for like a year and a half. And I'm not DEMANDING. I said that's the bar the union should set. Just like the union set the bar at 25% DC. They then can negotiate for the actual language.
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