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Old 09-23-2023 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex
From the research I’ve done it seems the biggest Visa denial reason is incorrect paperwork. For example, you type your address wrong or maybe leave something blank. I’m not sure about DUIs or previous US government jobs but I imagine they would flag that too. I haven’t heard of anyone getting denied if you just follow the directions on the paperwork and have a clean background. I’m in the middle of the process now and it’s time consuming but I’m just taking my time to make sure it’s done correctly the first try!

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After you fill Out your Chinese visa but before you submit it call CIBT. They can review it prior to submission and will catch anything that needs to be fixed. Mine was rejected twice and after using the aforementioned technique it sailed through.

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Old 09-23-2023 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Public service announcement:

After you fill Out your Chinese visa but before you submit it call CIBT. They can review it prior to submission and will catch anything that needs to be fixed. Mine was rejected twice and after using the aforementioned technique it sailed through.

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How long between application, rejection and new application?

That raises an interesting question. How many times can a pilot get rejected before they are forced out of a category that requires a Visa?
Old 09-23-2023 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
How long between application, rejection and new application?

That raises an interesting question. How many times can a pilot get rejected before they are forced out of a category that requires a Visa?
There's no mechanism that I'm aware of to force a pilot out of the category, but they can still be awarded trips that serve these destinations and removed without pay if they don't meet the visa requirements.
Old 09-23-2023 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by myrkridia
There's no mechanism that I'm aware of to force a pilot out of the category, but they can still be awarded trips that serve these destinations and removed without pay if they don't meet the visa requirements.
Agreed. They can also just bid reserve and get full guarantee, while being unable to serve PVG, etc. The CPO may take issue after a while but that’s another matter, there’s still no way to force them out.
Old 09-23-2023 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I’m pretty sure the fleet pages have the latest. Just pointing out that that’s 9 months old.
What fleet pages are you referring to that have the delivery schedules for future orders?
Old 09-23-2023 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw
Look, anyone who has been paying attention over the last 6-8 months we've been beating this proposed rule change to death, it's been pretty obvious based on everything they've said that the proponents don't plan to actually work it. They just want the money. They hope to stay on or go out on LTD, sit at home with pay and never turn a wheel, use sick time and throw a wrench in their downgrade training to drag it out, etc. Of course our management and every other airline's management realizes this, but they aren't going to kick the hornets nest by taking a side. Instead, they've got their lobbyists quietly fighting it and throwing lots o' cash around. And of course, the politicians will vote with whoever pays them more. That's not going to be a bunch of white sneaker guys with a phone holster and a facebook page.

The Canada thing isn't apples to apples. It's a penalty for doing something illegal, and there's ways around it if a pilot gets a good lawyer to fix it. It also only effects a handful of pilots. This is a much bigger factor that will effect thousands of pilots, and will certainly require address. Maybe the union, which has shown no desire to support it, flexes their young majority and lets the company put them on unpaid LOA. But the obvious compromise is a deal that puts them on UNA at 50% 717B pay. Remember when those same guys told the 2558 they didn't deserve UNA pay and should just take a furlough? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

What isn't going to happen is ICAO going along with it at the last minute and letting them keep their seats, or the company accommodating them by sitting at home with full pay, or worse, nuking the training department with a bump/flush.

The proponents of this are kidding themselves if they actually think this will be a windfall as they've been hoping. There is no way in the world they will get paid a million dollars over 2 years to never turn a wheel, or be allowed to displace thousands of pilots to go fly domestic NB for 2 more years.
that's a pretty cynical take. And for the vast majority of guys I know that are being kicked out, it's untrue. Most of them wasn't too continue working.
Old 09-23-2023 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
that's a pretty cynical take. And for the vast majority of guys I know that are being kicked out, it's untrue. Most of them wasn't too continue working.
Yeah pretty much everyone I know getting close to 65 who wants 67 to happen definitely wants to actually keep flying too.

I don't think widebody A gets to 2014 hires until at least 2027.
Old 09-23-2023 | 04:33 PM
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Overall I think alot of folks are overestimating the demand for 95%+ seniority on a WB A position. I think pilot bidding behavior continues to focus on QOL and extremely junior A positions continue to slid more junior. LAX350A trended close to 4000 and we haven't really started staffing for 2024 yet
Old 09-23-2023 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Overall I think alot of folks are overestimating the demand for 95%+ seniority on a WB A position. I think pilot bidding behavior continues to focus on QOL and extremely junior A positions continue to slid more junior. LAX350A trended close to 4000 and we haven't really started staffing for 2024 yet
Dude, LAX 350 A barely broke 3400. Stop saying it’s almost 4000. 600 numbers at that level is enormous.
Old 09-23-2023 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by saturn
What fleet pages are you referring to that have the delivery schedules for future orders?
The fleet newsletter laid out when the new to Delta 737s were being delivered. 321neos were published too awhile back.
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