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tennisguru 11-02-2022 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by normalperson (Post 3525253)
Salute, respect and admiration to our brothers and sisters at AA, UA and especially DL. As whack says, we at corndog will aspire to stand with you and no, new guys like myself are not yes. We are hard no as many of us are making less now than at our regional jobs now. Together we are all stronger. Anything less than life changing in ALL contract areas is not only NO but a…….
cheers

Ok, I'm ignorant. What on earth is corndog??

crazyjaydawg 11-02-2022 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3525271)
Ok, I'm ignorant. What on earth is corndog??


SWA. Their brown paint jobs lol.

BlueSkies 11-02-2022 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg (Post 3525276)
SWA. Their brown paint jobs lol.

Love it! I've never heard that one before.

OOfff 11-02-2022 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg (Post 3525276)
SWA. Their brown paint jobs lol.

it’s actually a reference to their new paint and its similarity to the corporate colors of the chain Hotdog-On-A-Stick



https://i.ibb.co/fQCTSpB/6-E375-E5-E...C1-EBF3573.jpg

TegridyFarms 11-02-2022 01:35 PM

My taxi speed is insane. Nobody taxis faster than me. I use only ground speed in this calculation. Not gusts from b757 jet blast. Taxiing with tegridy.

WHACKMASTER 11-02-2022 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by TegridyFarms (Post 3525346)
My taxi speed is insane. Nobody taxis faster than me. I use only ground speed in this calculation. Not gusts from b757 jet blast. Taxiing with tegridy.

Hahaha. I’ll never forget one of your pilots (DAL) getting on my case in 2009 about my taxi speed on the Victor loop in the Ahhh Teeee Elllll.

On North Ground:

”Really Citrus…10 knots?!”

tcco94 11-02-2022 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by MJP27 (Post 3525162)
I disagree. They're still getting labor at a discount.

So … your point is? Rush a contract and take lower than we deserve?

MJP27 11-03-2022 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 3525580)
So … your point is? Rush a contract and take lower than we deserve?

Absolutely not. But they are in fact getting our labor at a huge discount. Don't think they're overly upset it got voted down.

wags3539 11-03-2022 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by MJP27 (Post 3525803)
Absolutely not. But they are in fact getting our labor at a huge discount. Don't think they're overly upset it got voted down.

As it has been mentioned previously, it's only a discount if we're stupid enough to agree to anything without retro. That is also a hill I'm willing to die on. I've left from one carrier that spent over a decade working on reaching a TA, to another going on over 3 years past amendable, this needs to be accounted for.

Mooner 11-04-2022 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by wags3539 (Post 3525826)
As it has been mentioned previously, it's only a discount if we're stupid enough to agree to anything without retro. That is also a hill I'm willing to die on. I've left from one carrier that spent over a decade working on reaching a TA, to another going on over 3 years past amendable, this needs to be accounted for.

Did you get full retro? Can anyone cite an instance where full retro was achieved 3 years plus beyond the amendable date? How about 4 years? If not, there has to be a better reason than those pilot groups didn’t want it bad enough.

I don’t prescribe one way or another without the overall context of an agreement to look at. We could have full retro with small increases in the outlying years or less retro and more later. But, I think the above question should be asked and then answered. If yes, what did the pilot group do to achieve the result? If no, why hasn’t it happened before?


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