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bigdaddie 11-05-2022 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Thruster (Post 3526685)
Not TMI at all. Thanks for sharing.

Follow up question: what’s your best time from Mooney shutdown to TBIT/lounge? Uber vs train? Not poking holes, I’ve been wanting to do this for a while so I’m genuinely curious.

It's about 30min from sutdown to crew lounge. Slightly longer than parking in the S lot and walking.

ClownDown 11-05-2022 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3526817)
What are you talking about? Nonrev or jumpseat. Because, heck no on AA’s jumpseat policy. Nonrev: seniority with a few S2/holiday/s1 passes sprinkled in. Pretty standard stuff. Why should a new hire bump my family of who cares how many. It’s my benefit. PSC is done, but like many have said, we are getting on anyways so why the angst?

AAs jumpseat policy is the same as DLs. The non-rev is first check in.

chrisreedrules 11-05-2022 10:25 AM

AA’s non-rev policy is hands down better than DALs.

CBreezy 11-05-2022 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3526930)
AA’s non-rev policy is hands down better than DALs.

​​​​​​Better for regionals. Time of check in is a terrible way to determining priority

CX500T 11-05-2022 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3526939)
​​​​​​Better for regionals. Time of check in is a terrible way to determining priority

I've always thought a hybrid system would be best.. Priority list freezes 12-24h out.. (somewhere in that range)
Anyone listed before the cutoff is in straight date of hire, can upgrade to S2
Anyone listed after cutoff is time of listing/checkin.

I've had more than a few instances of Grandma lists her and her 4 grandkids LAST MINUTE.. I'm talking under 2 hours to departure, to go to NYC to "See a show" then me (commuting) or me and my wife (vacation/other travel) are now scrambling to figure out alternates. I've seen at least 3 instances of 'grandma flying with grandkids but they are all S3s', I know there are some grandparents raising their grandkids, but being as I saw them get dropped off with mom in one of the cases I kind of call BS on it.

RJ4LIFE 11-05-2022 10:50 AM

Anyone with a crj 200 commute is hosed. Those things have always been dicey as far as being able to take a jumpseater but now they are worthless. With the increased pax weights they are constantly limited to less than 50 even on good weather days.

CBreezy 11-05-2022 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3526942)
I've always thought a hybrid system would be best.. Priority list freezes 12-24h out.. (somewhere in that range)
Anyone listed before the cutoff is in straight date of hire, can upgrade to S2
Anyone listed after cutoff is time of listing/checkin.

I've had more than a few instances of Grandma lists her and her 4 grandkids LAST MINUTE.. I'm talking under 2 hours to departure, to go to NYC to "See a show" then me (commuting) or me and my wife (vacation/other travel) are now scrambling to figure out alternates. I've seen at least 3 instances of 'grandma flying with grandkids but they are all S3s', I know there are some grandparents raising their grandkids, but being as I saw them get dropped off with mom in one of the cases I kind of call BS on it.

I agree 100% that last minute listers are a real problem.

I also think commuting pilots should get priority but know that's a lot less popular

RAH RAH REE 11-05-2022 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by OpsCheckOK (Post 3526401)
Please find employment elsewhere, although it’s doubtful that’s an option for such a (insert username here).

He is Wildblue 2.0

ancman 11-05-2022 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3526939)
​​​​​​Better for regionals. Time of check in is a terrible way to determining priority

Having non-reved under both AA’s system and ours, I have to say that AA wins over Delta. The issue of an entire family of 6 with a 1979 seniority date listing and checking in at the last possible minute, thereby bumping an entire list of non-revs that planned ahead, is very real at Delta. AA’s system allows for much greater predictability and planning when non-reving. Their automatic combined jumpseat/non-rev listing also beats our strict “one or the other” policy.

tennisguru 11-05-2022 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3527007)
Having non-reved under both AA’s system and ours, I have to say that AA wins over Delta. The issue of an entire family of 6 with a 1979 seniority date listing and checking in at the last possible minute, thereby bumping an entire list of non-revs that planned ahead, is very real at Delta. AA’s system allows for much greater predictability and planning when non-reving. Their automatic combined jumpseat/non-rev listing also beats our strict “one or the other” policy.

Also under the AA system connecting passengers at the same overall priority level go ahead of people who are originating. So if a person is going TPA-ATL-SFO, that person would have priority over a person just flying ATL-SFO on that leg, even if both use S2s. So S2 connecting goes ahead of S2 originating goes ahead of S3 connecting goes ahead of S3 originating, etc.


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