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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
(Post 3534993)
Not a critique, but literally every organization from the PTA to the HOA to the church ladies book of the month reading club is like this. ALPA is no different, and unless the bylaws are rewritten to compel mandatory participation, it won’t change.
You wouldn’t want it to either. Imagine endless meetings full of people who find t actually want to be there. Organization is oligarchy. Best not to lose sleep over it. Case in point: Is our MEC chair-"elect" an active pilot? Change my mind. |
Council 66 just sent another email. This time from TK. It throws MC under the bus for the MEC election. In part it reads of sour grapes on TK’s part, but the treasurer also casts a no confidence vote on MC.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen this much public MEC infighting especially in the same council. Not a good look for ALPA and not great to have a fractured MEC for our contact negotiations. |
Originally Posted by Vsop
(Post 3535323)
Council 66 just sent another email. This time from TK. It throws MC under the bus for the MEC election. In part it reads of sour grapes on TK’s part, but the treasurer also casts a no confidence vote on MC.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen this much public MEC infighting especially in the same council. Not a good look for ALPA and not great to have a fractured MEC for our contact negotiations. The guy who voted down the covid LOA's and threw all the new guys under the bus for no reason is now upset that the "newer" mec reps didn't back him. Surprised... |
Originally Posted by Vsop
(Post 3535323)
Council 66 just sent another email. This time from TK. It throws MC under the bus for the MEC election. In part it reads of sour grapes on TK’s part, but the treasurer also casts a no confidence vote on MC.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen this much public MEC infighting especially in the same council. Not a good look for ALPA and not great to have a fractured MEC for our contact negotiations. |
Originally Posted by Vsop
(Post 3535323)
Council 66 just sent another email. This time from TK. It throws MC under the bus for the MEC election. In part it reads of sour grapes on TK’s part, but the treasurer also casts a no confidence vote on MC.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen this much public MEC infighting especially in the same council. Not a good look for ALPA and not great to have a fractured MEC for our contact negotiations. Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 3535388)
I'm assuming MC's vote was more a vote against C16. After seeing how the C16 chair writes as well as what I've heard from former MEC Committee Member's interactions with the C16 Chair, I support MC's decision
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Originally Posted by Vsop
(Post 3535408)
I find it hard to support voting against another MEC member instead of voting for your constituents.
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
(Post 3535415)
It could be both. As an example, both the C16 chair and TK voted against 20-04, I’d be willing to bet a lot of NY FOs supported that LOA.
Either way council 66 looks very dysfunctional. MC voting against the TK, the MC email, the TK email. Its an embarrassing mess. At least it will be very easy for the new members to look good by comparison. |
Originally Posted by Vsop
(Post 3535425)
Good point. It is possible that those two ideas don’t have to be opposed to each other.
Either way council 66 looks very dysfunctional. MC voting against the TK, the MC email, the TK email. Its an embarrassing mess. At least it will be very easy for the new members to look good by comparison. I don’t know enough about DH, and I’m not saying I would have voted for him, but if I were the NY FO rep, I would be leery of voting for someone who opposed a pretty popular LOA ( both pilot wide but specifically among junior pilots and commuters, which are an overwhelmingly majority of his constituents) |
Originally Posted by Gone Flying
(Post 3535429)
I agree it’s a mess. on top of that C1 put out a comm today that only adds fuel to the fire. Unfortunately I see a very divided MEC for awhile.
I don’t know enough about DH, and I’m not saying I would have voted for him, but if I were the NY FO rep, I would be leery of voting for someone who opposed a pretty popular LOA ( both pilot wide but specifically among junior pilots and commuters, which are an overwhelmingly majority of his constituents) |
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