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bugman61 11-16-2022 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3532739)
Why you don't want to increase the DC benefit for all and shelter those funds as intended is incomprehensible.

Literally nobody except you has said they don’t want to increase DC funds. And wanting to put the money someplace besides the mbcbp is apparently only incomprehensible to you.

notEnuf 11-16-2022 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by bugman61 (Post 3532741)
Again, you are saying everyone should stop working once we hit the irs compensation limit?

Not at all, I am saying there should be a tax sheltered vehicle for our much needed increase in DC funds. How much you choose to work is up to you.

OOfff 11-16-2022 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3532739)
Why you don't want to increase the DC benefit for all and shelter those funds as intended is incomprehensible.

I want to increase DC. I don’t want to shelter those funds in the same way you do. Nowhere in PWA 26 is a low-performing fund prescribed, so I’m not sure where “as intended” comes from.

CBreezy 11-16-2022 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3532728)
Hate to break it to you but your entire 401k is already "locked up" and nope your DC contributions are not spendable cash other than the overage you cherish.

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it's not locked up at all. It's very much accessible through a variety of mechanisms. And I, me get to decide if I put it in highly aggressive funds or bonds. No one else makes that decision for me.

OOfff 11-16-2022 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3532750)
Not at all, I am saying there should be a tax sheltered vehicle for our much needed increase in DC funds. How much you choose to work is up to you.

there should be a tax-sheltered vehicle for you to use. It should be optional, because I have literally zero desire to use that same vehicle

bugman61 11-16-2022 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3532750)
Not at all, I am saying there should be a tax sheltered vehicle for our much needed increase in DC funds. How much you choose to work is up to you.

That would be great, as an option. Many of us have no interest in confiscation of our money, or for additional tax deferral.

notEnuf 11-16-2022 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by bugman61 (Post 3532749)
Literally nobody except you has said they don’t want to increase DC funds. And wanting to put the money someplace besides the mbcbp is apparently only incomprehensible to you.

Explain to me what the effective difference is between increasing DC to increase taxable wages and increasing pay rates. If we fail to get more DC then we are keeping your hourly rate bound to "reasonableness" with no real increase for retirement. The only way we justify more DC is to have a place to put it that isn't regular income.

OOfff 11-16-2022 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3532758)
Explain to me what the effective difference is between increasing DC to increase taxable wages and increasing pay rates. If we fail to get more DC then we are keeping your hourly rate bound to "reasonableness" with no real increase for retirement. the only way we justify more DC is to have a place to put it that isn't regular income.

put yours in the MBCBP. We’d be ecstatic for you to be able to do so.

notEnuf 11-16-2022 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3532753)
there should be a tax-sheltered vehicle for you to use. It should be optional, because I have literally zero desire to use that same vehicle

I agree completely but optionality lives in fantasy land so we will have to face this decision as a group.

OOfff 11-16-2022 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3532764)
I agree completely but optionality lives in fantasy land so we will have to face this decision as a group.

okay. No thanks, then. You’ll have to find somewhere else to make money. Put it in QQQ and you’ll make out far better, anyway


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