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JamesBond 12-01-2022 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3540827)
Naw(for JB).... including the pay and QOL gets....ALPA would have to self de-certify naming DPA as the legal union representation henceforth. Even then, I don't know it it would pass muster.:cool:

I've said it before that for 30+years I have been a koolaid drinking ALPA supporter. But the latest antics have turned me off bigly.


Term limits for reps would be helpful. (yeah I know.. submit a resolution, blah blah blah... which they would kill in one of their little committees. I have better things to do with my time (believe it or not)

JamesBond 12-01-2022 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3540894)
If we go on strike for a year, none of us are going back to work at Delta.

LOL that's some funny shiz right there.

FUD.. stop spreading it.

Mooner 12-01-2022 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 3540906)
lol we get the closest to closing a deal and suddenly the narrative is “likely our ta is closed by congress”

Where do y’all come up with this stuff

That is highly unlikely. We’ll never even get close to “Congress”. In fact, you won’t ever see a legacy carrier get released for self help. I know, the narrative here is that a legacy only represents 20% of the lift capacity so we will be allowed to strike. BS. The railway labor act is a political tool in the end to prevent strikes. Find me an administration, Republican or Democrat that finds it politically expedient to have a strike that will negatively effect the economy.

The administration is being lead by economic and political dumbasses. The President is a brain dead potted plant. If whoever is running the show had any sense they would have never allowed the NMB to release the rails. Who does the NMB work for? Oh ya, the President. Duh.

JamesBond 12-01-2022 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Mooner (Post 3540930)
That is highly unlikely. We’ll never even get close to “Congress”. In fact, you won’t ever see a legacy carrier get released for self help. I know, the narrative here is that a legacy only represents 20% of the lift capacity so we will be allowed to strike. BS. The railway labor act is a political tool in the end to prevent strikes. Find me an administration, Republican or Democrat that finds it politically expedient to have a strike that will negatively effect the economy.

The administration is being lead by economic and political dumbasses. The President is a brain dead potted plant. If whoever is running the show had any sense they would have never allowed the NMB to release the rails. Who does the NMB work for? Oh ya, the President. Duh.

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CBreezy 12-01-2022 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3540929)
LOL that's some funny shiz right there.

FUD.. stop spreading it.

That's not FUD. That's just reality. There is a zero% chance we strike for a year.

We are no more going to strike for a year than I'm going to hold my breath for a week.

Fourpaw 12-01-2022 01:30 PM

It’s very peculiar reading the Flying the Lines VOL I/II and hearing about all the backbone that existed, only to scratch your head wondering where that is now? Where’s National?

Gone Flying 12-01-2022 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3540929)
LOL that's some funny shiz right there.

FUD.. stop spreading it.

do you honestly think we could strike for a year and delta would still be financially solvent? (Assuming we don’t have a large group of pilots scab which I would hope we have as close to zero as possible)

IF a strike were to happen, it would be over in a matter of days IMO, because that’s all DL could afford.

JamesBond 12-01-2022 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3540936)
do you honestly think we could strike for a year and delta would still be financially solvent? (Assuming we don’t have a large group of pilots scab which I would hope we have as close to zero as possible)

IF a strike were to happen, it would be over in a matter of days IMO, because that’s all DL could afford.

Not what I said, but.....

Yeah OK. He's right. It was simply a completely stupidly hyperbolic thing to say on his part and I should have just called it out that way.
1) We ain't striking anyway
2) if we do, it wouldn't go on for a week much less a year.

Fire away

JamesBond 12-01-2022 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Fourpaw (Post 3540935)
It’s very peculiar reading the Flying the Lines VOL I/II and hearing about all the backbone that existed, only to scratch your head wondering where that is now? Where’s National?

Great question. I have been wondering why DePete hasn't come out with a statement that we are in support of the rail workers. At least SAY he is even if he isn't going to do anything worthwhile. (why start now, right?)

Mooner 12-01-2022 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3540938)
Great question. I have been wondering why DePete hasn't come out with a statement that we are in support of the rail workers. At least SAY he is even if he isn't going to do anything worthwhile. (why start now, right?)

Exactly. I don’t think it’s beneficial for ALPA inc. to make those kind of waves. Last thing you want to do is create a bunch of believers in the rank in file. Believers get ****ed when they get smart and realize they’ve been duped.


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